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The Tribulation is a timed event in the end of the world that has a plethora of specific events in a certain sequence. Revelation is a revealing Of Jesus. The things that were, and are and that will be. You conflate these in such an obtuse way that we need to ask what you are doing pretending to...

The Tribulation period involves world wide things. The AC, the plagues, etc etc. Again, you need some minute modicum of understanding of the bible to debate these things.

Right, and that means that there is 3 and a half years time involved for the tribulation.

Sorry if you actually think that the Great Trib was thousands of years ago. You need to have some inkling of the basics before debating.

I did nothing of the foolish sort. He spoke the words in Luke before He went up to heaven obviously.

That is business, God's business. Keeping ourselves pure? I thought what made us pure was the blood of Jesus. How do you top that? His righteousness, yes. He is righteous. It is not like we try real hard and buy bleach and work up some nice white clothes. He clothes us! Not rewarded with...

Seems pretty basic. Not sure why so many people on religious forums can't even get to first base on bible prophesy basics.

In the world, He said we would have tribulation. He was leaving this world and we saw Him do that. The time which Jesus said THEN shall be great tribulation unlike anything ever seen is clear. That time is when a specific event takes place and the tribulation (Jesus confirmed was what Daniel was...

I would think that restoring is a process that starts when Jesus returns. When the heavens and earth are made new, well, I figure it is done. To the other part of your question, He comes from heaven with us. I see no reason why we would be left in heaven when He returns with His saints, do you?

It does seem like some have started. Here is one I would say has not really happened yet Luke 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Well, if these have started, the Rapture must be near.

We go up to heaven to be with Him there. It does not say He comes down to earth to rule here. In Rev 15:2 it points out that the people in heaven were victorious over the beast. That means they were from the end time. While I really wouldn't question that the group included martyrs of old, Rev...

Died in Christ or been risen already in the Rapture. What did you think, the Bride would be left in heaven when all the other saints come marching by? The dead in Christ are the first ones to rise in the Rapture, then we that are alive next!

Easy. Once He comes in the air for us, later He returns in body with us, and is seen by all. In the end a common lie being spread will be that He already came and is somewhere on the earth in secret. It makes sense that such a whopper would fit well with the Rapture having happened with millions...

"The first trumpet announces widespread devastation on the land (6-7); the second, on the sea (8-9); the third, on the waters of the land (10-11); and the fourth, on the moon and stars (12)" Revelation 8 - Bridgeway Bible Commentary - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org "Third part of the trees...

There is no indication that trees are not trees and grass is not grass. You cannot wave away all things that do not fit your personal paradigm

Show us where a third of the trees and all the grass on earth was burned for starters?

Yes, symbols are used but that does not take away from the reality of passages that do not use them. Unless something is clearly indicated as a symbol, we should consider that it is such. You can't wave away something just because occasionally it may have also been used as a symbol. When...

In heaven actually there was a multitude crying out to God. So there are people in heaven. In the new earth there are people also. Did you think when Jesus walked on water that meant He actually walked on people?

He was not going to deceive us anyhow. He deceives the world. There is still a world down there after He takes us into the air. The new believers after we go are the new elect. They won't be deceived either! The world will be very divided. 2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by...