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I have been doing a great deal of thought/research on Revelation recently. I still stand behind the symbolic nature of it. And, many of the symbols we actually find used throughout the OT, if we take the time to go back and diligently look for them. However, that said, I do, actually, believe...

I found your post quite interesting, because I could say much the same thing, only where you put 'literal' and 'spiritualize' I would swap 'em around. For example: You said: "I do interpret the Bible using what people like to call the literal method, which is a poor term." And I thought: "I...

Not all the time they aren't. Here are some examples of symbols that we clearly take AS symbols, but are not explained as such: In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. - Revelation 1:16 Clearly...

This is a very good post, however, I do want to say one thing about "spiritualizing". As you know, I hold to an Amil perspective of End Time events, and we get accused of this extreme spiritulizing often. It's said that by coming at scripture like this we can twist the bible like a wax nose and...

So, this thread is probably more geared towards those who lean towards an Amillennial type of understanding, but is also certainly something that we all are probably noticing. Every day as I read the news I am again and again confronted by the fact that the world has gone crazy. The liberal...

Ah, I'm not sure how to really say this. I'm not ignoring you, I'm just not going to reply. You and I think so differently that I honestly don't think any conversation is going to go well, or be in any way edifying for anyone. So, finally learning from my past errors, I'm just not going to go...

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Honestly, I disagree with you strongly on this matter, on multiple issues. But I doubt continuing the discussion or posting more verses will lead to any agreement of greater understanding between us. So...I'm just going to bow out of the conversation.

Yes, it is a wonder. It's pure speculation, of course, I'd say that getting Trump out of the way, by either impeachment or assassination could work in the lefts favor. Perhaps these elections coming up will also tie his hands as well, although I can't really comment too much as I'm not really...

The “political alliance” between these nations is extremely interesting, I’ll give you that! That all 3 nations are facing financial inflation and social unrest due to said financial strain is also interesting. They are sitting there, in a war-torn and probably impoverished Syria, and one...

So...are you telling me that the Christians who face persecution for their faith, to pick just one small area of this still fallen world. These persecuted people who face having to watch there own children being killed in front of them, that they have attained the promise of a world of no more...

Hi amadeus! It's a valid question and certainly an important one. While we can know, from scripture and the evidence within us, that Christ indeed lives within our hearts, we need to understand that there is a great distinction between that, and the promise of his second, and final, return. To...

Well, of course we are to read it! How else are we to...I don't know...imbibe it? In that way, of course 'blessed is he who reads it'...as opposed to those who don't. We who read it are digging into God's word! But you are completely and totally missing the point. The revelation of Jesus...

Really? Because it seems like you are just swapping between symbolism and literalism to suit your own program of interpretation, rather than actually coming at the book of Revelation as the genre itself asks us to. As John and Christ intends us to in the way they write it. Why would they write...

Forgive me, but I have never really understood how people standing on the hill of "literal interpretation" can get there through all the interference in the way. You say that people do not have the right to spiritualize or allegorize at will, and yet...you guys seem to. You (and here I'm...

Yeah, well, I might stick with my scriptures over your say so, if you don't mind. And in the end we'll just have to see, won't we? But I think it's time to leave it...

Wait, wait...so. You think that Christ did NOT retain his physical body after his resurrection? Well, there's your first assumption, and mistake. Christ outright said he had flesh and blood. But they were startled and frightened and thought they saw a spirit. And he said to them, “Why are you...

And we could point fingers and go around and around. But how do you deal with passages like this? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. - John 14:3 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he...

Have you heard of 'The Already, but Not Yet?' It's sort of pivotal. And it means we are neither delusional, liars or clueless. Just bible believers being faithful. It is both extremely possible to have Christ living vibrantly within you, and still expect his visible, bodily return. The bible...

There seems to be a level of cascading supposition going on here. You firstly assume that dimensional realities is a thing. Which I'm down with, it could be. But you take that assumption into the bible and into Revelation where there is no such reference. So right away you are on shaky ground...