Search results

No, we're talking symbolism, not dimension. I mean, come on...if you're only talking about another dimension, it would still be a giant cube, yeah? So if that's weird here, it'd be weird there. Just because it's in another dimension, doesn't mean it would be less weird.

This!! There is plenty of arguing back and forth and sniping and even enjoyable debate that goes on here...that is expected and OK! But when someone comes to us holding out his open hands, and we don't treat him like Christ would have....dude...turn around, walk away and go and have a serious...

Aspen, I don't struggle with addiction, so I truly can't know what you're going through right now, but I want to apologize on behalf of those who are telling you you just need to try harder or believer a bit stronger. They'll probably deny they need to, but they do. It's like those parents who...

So...the later, then. Look, it's cool if you want to stress the differences the bible makes between the first death, the second one, the abyss, the pit, the lake of fire and really get into all that. But that wasn't really what I was talking about...so, I'm not sure I really deserved a "check...

Or...the Next Age...as the bible terms it...? We don't see or hear yet, because it hasn't come yet. But it will once this Age comes to an end. But the expectation the bible gives us is that it will be here on this earth...just an earth made new...just as our bodies will be made new! I think if...

There is so many problems with your post, I don't even know where to start. I don't really have the inclination to refute everything that I just o_O over, so I'll just say this: you say that biblically we have no reason or proof to think Christ will return literally. waiting for our blessed...

Ahh. May I ask where you get the notion that the New Jerusalem is in another dimension? The bible refers to it "coming down out of heaven" from God, and that it will be on a mountain. But there is nothing to suppose it is going to be in another dimension.

Paul spoke of waiting for our blessed hope! Personally, this is something that threads through my life and colors it, and...well, I just felt the need to share. Shouldn't we all be longing for it, our Saviors return?! I think if the bible speaks of, so should we, because as you say!

Yes! I cannot deny I experience trepidation for my children. The irrationality of today is frightening, because it seems more subtle and seductive than a lot of the outright evil that we also see. I worry my children will succumb to the teaching that all this is normal. It's a daily battle to...

Aren't we a bride "without spot of wrinkle" only because we are given Christ's perfect life as our own in God's eyes? So...wouldn't that mean, in effect, that we would be attracting Jesus back with his own nature, that he himself gifts to us, that we ourselves cannot earn or work to gain...

So often there is friction on these boards, and, well, that's par for the course, I suppose. I accept that just as I accept that we are to contend for the faith. But don't you all just wish, sometimes, that all doctrines, and disagreements all just all of that would just...go away! What do we...

So...to be clear...are you objecting to the fact that I said that the "darkness" is the same as hell...or that I haven't gone through and in precise enough detail listed the possible sequences of hellish punishments that God has in store for all that oppose him?

On this we agree 100%! As upsetting as the notion of an eternal hell can be, I find it more upsetting that: 1- we would ascribe to God perfect love that is not completed by his perfect justice (which would in fact disprove his love, would it not?), and 2-people seemingly find it easy ignoring...

I'm not sure of your point here, sorry. Yes, we see Paul's hesitancy to boast in his reference to himself in the third person. Everything else is speculation, really, although he does make the point of saying he did not know if he went in the body or out of the body. He seemingly didn't truly...

I didn't really link it in when I talked about it, but my point was sort of that the "outer Darkness" that this thread IS discussing, we would call 'hell'. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until...

I don't think it's worth a heated debate, or even an unheated one!! It was just a thought I felt I'd toss in. I'm not committed to it, and I certainly don't stand on it, or believe it's worth friction over! I haven't even decided if I buy it myself. I think for most of my life I have considered...

Well...how far do we push it? If people we to be in lava, wouldn't they burn up? How do they burn forever when they are made, essentially, of combustible material? Are their new, post death bodies made of fire retardant material? Which, sure, is possible for God, should he want it that way, and...

Ok...but...that's not really what the thread is about, is it? The bible is full of people's testimony's...of how people came to Christ. Clearly that is something that is not only fine, it's encouraged. But, like I said, we have a clear example in Paul when it comes to a "I went to heaven, let me...

She is a believer, which I thank God daily for. We've spoken in depth about why it's important for a believer to not date an unbeliever and at this point she is firm in what she wants. Of course, I know that as kids get older the pressure to have a boyfriend can grow and her 'standards' may drop...

Preaching to the converted! Oh, the conversations we've held (with her) about it. And she's on board at the moment, and happy with our current rule of "no dating until 17"...which we reserve the right to change to 21!