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Again, just sharing perspective here, not trying to argue/convince you of anything: God didn't create a world of slavery, including when He placed the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden, knowing that Adam & Eve would partake. Such partaking did not place the entire world under...

:) My perspective: Every person has that free will gifted by God. God did not design a world where people are slaves, nor does he enforce such slavery. Yes, there is totally that natural inclination for sinful/laziness, but each person has that choice. And God sends the Holy Spirit to...

Ok. I'm going to start with a metaphor here: a man comes up to you and says "Mjh29, I love you so much, I bought you a mansion. Here's the keys. Please, come live in this wonderful mansion. I even hired a moving company to pack and move all your stuff, handled all the paper work, and...

Note: if I explain things, it would be for the sake of explaining, not for the sake of trying to convince you of anything --- I consider such trying-to-convince motivations to be disrespectful, unproductive, and all around undesirable. So no need to defend anything, cause nothing is under...

Would you like to understand how this from a non-Calvinist perspective?

I think pretty much everyone can agree that the most important thing is for a person to have a faith/relationship with Christ. But I don't think that's inherently opposed to having a structured group of people/beliefs to support that relationship. Obviously if that person doesn't have that...

The conversation between you and I was me ask you to explain your beliefs. Hence my being relatively quiet, listening to when you explain your perspective, and not quoting much of anything. Conversations focused on comfort or celebration or just open Gospel discussion are where I readily quote...

I would agree that complete refusal to discuss things is a cultic trait. But I have met some Calvinists (even on this site) who are completely ok with discussing things. We have opposite viewpoints, but they are willing to talk and a civil conversations. I would not say having the same old...

^This is a cultic type answer: downplaying and dismissing anyone who is not in the "in" group. Again: such behaviors are not a Calvinism-thing per say. I've encountered these type of behaviors in some individuals in every group I've studied.

For me, it's not the *what* is believed but rather *how* it is believed that makes an individual / group show cultic tendencies-- "cultic" being defined the common tongue sociological way, not in way "anti cult" groups define it. This like refusing to discuss information (even if there are...

This^ is awkward wording. Going for some more more concrete examples: If a group believes a person must be a believer to enter into the New Covenant, then an infant baptism is considered invalid. If a group believes a person must be baptized via immersion, then a baptism via other means...

No church of Christ's was built via people arguing over the internet. Lots of negativity and nasty amongst people was created though.

No church of Christ's was built via people arguing over the internet. Lots of negativity and nasty amongst people was created though.

It's not so simple. Throughout Christiandom you'll encounter a wide variety of views on what is the New Covenant, how a person enters it (their personal level of devotion), and methodology of what is consider to be a valid baptism. If Group A of believers considers a person's pervious baptism...

BoL: we can all agree that there is only one ultimate Truth. However, this Truth is not discovered via people arguing over the internet, nor is anyone convinced of it via arguing over the internet. Such arguing is only destructive.

Agreed. Such "I'm right and everyone else" arguing is only destructive.

Mary, you're not interested in answers, other people, or their views. You're only interested in proselytizing Catholicism.

I'm interested in the Bible and respecting other people's beliefs. I'm not interested in being proselytized at, which is Mary's only intent.

This is something you are going to find a million answers to throughout Christiandom. There are so many different views on even the questions "what is baptism" and "why get baptized". You really got to start at those basics first.

Baptism is a topic that has a lot of diverse views about it in Christendom -- what it does, why to do it, who should be baptized, who should baptize, etc. I would first recommend studying scripture, beliefs, and speaking with God about what His Truths are. And then follow Him. Finding a...