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  1. J

    Some good information for Dave

    @justbyfaith , I'm going to be very blunt here: you are a persecutor. Quotes like these: Are mockery and unbecoming of a disciple of Christ. You continually assault my character solely based on what you *think* I believe, having never never actually listened to me or stepped foot into a...
  2. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I have sat through and participated in faith formation classes of ~8 different denotations. If you want to call that "indoctrinating", that's you choice of words.
  3. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Addressed this question earlier--
  4. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Here's my story-- When I was ~6 six years old, I was going through a really rough time in life. I was bogged down in the difficulties of life and in pain this existence can bring. I also felt weighed down for my own shortcomings- that I couldn’t do this or that, that I wasn’t good enough, or...
  5. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I have been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 30+ years. Whether or not a person was raised going to a church building (any church building) does not matter because what matters is the faith (the actual beliefs/actions) a person embraces. I'm also just a huge...
  6. J

    Some good information for Dave

    Persecution is inherently wrong, no matter who is doing it to who, or what form that persecution takes.
  7. J

    Some good information for Dave

    I have been persecuted for many years by many people because my beliefs (or more accurately: what these people incorrectly think are my beliefs). I can not tell you how many thousands of times I had my relationship with Christ denied, been cast out of places, have heard lines like "oh you're...
  8. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    There are many Calvinists on this forum that will testify that they find that view to be Biblical and a loving God. Some of these individuals include Mjr, Anthony, Dave, and yourself. Likewise, there are many non-Calvinists on this forum that will testify that they find that view to be Biblical...
  9. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    @Waiting on him, I acknowledge that you feel that the Bible supports Calvinism and you view such a portrayal of God as being genuinely loving & gives salvation as a gift, and the other position to be false But that doesn't change the fact that non-Calvinists feel that the Bible supports...
  10. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    The following statements are both completely off-base: - "people don't believe in Calvinism because they are prideful" - "people believe in Calvinism because they are prideful" The two following statements are completely accurate: - "people who believe in Calvinism because they see that as...
  11. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    Yes it does. And I've seen through our conversations here that you personally are indeed willing to respect those that disagree with you. You're also willing to openly discuss a variety of thing. I have enjoyed our chats. I am still awaiting @Anthony D'Arienzo 's personal answer to this...
  12. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    I getting very tired of having my questions evaded. Again: And are you willing to respect those people who believe differently than you, just as you want them to respect you? Or hold your own pitchfork to continue the "_____ is a cult" and other such slander attitudes?
  13. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    And are you willing to respect those people who believe differently than you, just as you want them to respect you? Or hold your own pitchfork to continue the "_____ is a cult" and other such slander attitudes?
  14. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    I was not asking about that misrepresentation of the belief of the Church fo Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (a misrepresentation carried on by the exact "anti-cult" crowd you are fighting against here). What I said is: if you want a non-Calvinist (which is >80% of Christians numerically...
  15. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    If you want a non-Calvinist to respect your Calvinist viewpoint, you need to be willing to respect them as well. Are you willing to do that?
  16. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    Are *you* willing to be respectful of a non-Calvinism viewpoint? I'm interested in *your* thoughts here, so please use *your* own words.
  17. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    *sigh* If you want people who believe differently than you to respect you, you got to be willing to show them that same respect. Are you willing to do that?
  18. J

    Calvinism is a Cult

    And my options are here 1) To get out my pitchfork and torch to join the mob trying to lynch Calvinists. 2) Spend the time to civilly actually ask a Calvinist what they believe, listen, and come out with a better understanding and love for that person. I am trying extremely hard to go with...
  19. J

    I am done

    People are going to believe differently than you do on many issues. And even people who believe identically to you are still sinners that fall short. So I'm not sur what all you want to be said here.
  20. J

    Tolerance

    I'm going to answer this for true tolerance (not related to any political agenda) and then I'll talk about the political version. Being a jerk is not a Christian virtue. We can be civil and loving, without having to agree with what a person believes or does. In fact, one could even argue how...