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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Thank you for putting me in the company of the great Apostle Paul, who was accused of preaching the exact same things and for exactly the same reasons. I can always use a little more reward from our Savior. I don't mean to be ungracious to IBeMe, so I'll offer a brief argument from scripture...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    I've said as much in this thread, but thanks for agreeing.
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    The Red Dragon: Evidence Of A Prior World Age

    Another man made doctrine (Gnostic heresy). How's it feel, Vet?
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    I started this particular thread, so my understanding has been given primarily in the 1st post, but continues with supporting scripture on through the thread. I thought I was being pretty clear, but evidently some folks don't understand what I've said, or object to the notion that God is pleased...
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    What was Job's sin?

    Just curious, but why do you think that the book is "inspired myth?" Do you believe other scripture to be myth? If so, what is the basis of your authority (that is why should I or anyone else for that matter believe anything that you say?) My only authority is scripture, my belief in it is the...
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    What Should A Person Do If They Miss The Rapture ?

    Amen to that. I think that I'm just getting a little tired of being told to repent of believing what the scripture actually says.
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    What Should A Person Do If They Miss The Rapture ?

    No argument there, but doesn't the pre-trib rapture doctrine add to the book of the Revelation, by dividing the first resurrection into multiple resurrections "of the just?" And doesn't that come with a curse of having the plagues added to the offender? Only problem with that line of thought...
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    The Nine Harbingers and the collapse of America

    Don't really want to rain on your parade Eric, but according to the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ, the 1st resurrection doesn't happen until Jesus Christ returns in Judgment, so the "rapture" can't happen until then. All current "rapture" doctrine adds to the book of the Revelation...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    So, you think that the scripture is nutty? Peter confessed Jesus Christ as the messiah the Holy one of God by the power of the Holy Spirit before He received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and you think that that's nutty? 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper...
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    What was Job's sin?

    That's okay, some day you'll get it.
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    The Nine Harbingers and the collapse of America

    The documents written by the founding fathers of the United States all tend to suggest an abiding belief in the God of scripture, but whether or not they were Christian is questionable (the nation was founded by a rebellion against legal authority: not strictly a Christian concept). The Old...
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    The Nine Harbingers and the collapse of America

    Just bought and read the book this last week. Passed it on to a niece this afternoon. The Rabbi did stretch the truth a little. His first harbinger, the breach in the wall, was placed as the attacks of 9/11/2001, but there was an earlier and successful terrorist attack by Islamic radicals upon...
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    What was Job's sin?

    You should probably try reading the book again a few times. Elihu said that Job justified himself instead of justifying God, this is true and is what self righteousness is. Elihu was not one of Job's 3 friends, but someone who isn't mentioned at all, until he speaks. Elihu is never corrected or...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Asyncritus, I understand your point about Jesus possibly speaking about Himself, given the structure of the sentences in John 12:30-33, but in drawing the meaning out of scripture we first need to look at context (Jesus referring to the cross and His victory over death, the fear of which is the...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    Good try vet. The Holy Spirit was with them, but not in them. I suggest that you read the gospel; according to John very slowly and the Acts of the Apostles. They might help you to understand.
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    The disciples prayer is an example of prayer as in "how we should pray," not something we need to repeat vainly like a parrot and it was given to those who hadn't received the Spirit of Christ yet. I'll recite it in mixed company at a funeral or wedding, but I speak to God in prayer, I don't...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    Jesus spoke about seeing Satan fall In Luke 10:17-19, but since He's eternal, it could've been before creation, or at the day of Judgment. Nothing in scripture says when this happened, including those passages about the son of the morning, the prince of Tyre, etc. Somewhere between the 5th day...
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    God Knew Adam and Eve Would Fall

    I don't deny any of the scripture, including those verses you quote, which I have used to talk about the fall of Satan. However, there is nothing in scripture that places any of that before the creation of the earth, of which Eden was a part. You're stuck in your vain imagination, which is...
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    The hypergrace controversy: Heresy, maturity, or somewhere in between?

    This topic is not about Peter, but about the doctrines of grace (as opposed to doing works to establish a righteousness of your own.) The Doctor that I mentioned in my original post stated that teachers of “hyper-grace” consider it sin to pray for forgiveness if a person has already received the...