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It's in Daniel 9 the connection of the coming Messiah, the Prince and the crucifixion of Christ coming to fulfill all that was ordained of Him. I'll try to reply to more later when time permits. Blessings David for you and yours!

Christ does this by telling them and us to understand the AOD spoken of by Daniel the prophet. When they admired the city, temple and buildings they were going back to the Old Covenant. Which is why Christ told them all these things shall be destroyed. He wanted them to understand that with...

I think the main difference between how you and I understand this prophesy is that you see it as being mostly fulfilled near the very end of the age. But I view the prophesy as having begun to be fulfilled with the advent of Christ, and continuing to be fulfilled throughout all the ages until...

Okay, but Christ does not give them an answer for when the Old shall physically be destroyed. 70 AD is found nowhere in Scripture but must be read into the Bible by Preterits who cling to the Old after the New Covenant in Christ has come. Like the first century disciples of Christ, Preterits...

No, Christ doesn't talk about the cross, it is in reading from the prophet Daniel that the connection between AOD and the crucifixion is made manifest. No, I don't believe AOD is some thing! According to the prophet Daniel AOD is spiritual not physical. AOD was committed by the nation of...

Yes, they were looking back toward the Old Covenant physical realities, but the answer Christ gave them should have made them (and it did) look ahead. Because Christ links the AOD with the crucifixion of Christ which is that which was spoken by the prophet Daniel. Christ never gives the...

I've already told you what His answer to them was. They wanted to know what would happen and when to the physical city and temple, but the answer Christ gave them takes them and us back to the prophet Daniel that we would know the AOD is linked with the cross of Christ, and not the Old city and...

Yes, and the answer given can be known when we understand the abomination of desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel. Daniel links the AOD with the cross of Christ who is Messiah the Prince who was to come.

Yes, but we also recognize there are hosts, and legions of spiritual beings, both demonic as well as angels of God. Luke 2:13 (KJV) And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Host - stratiá: as encamped); camp-likeness, i.e. an army...

Having many legions does not mean there is more than ONE Roman Army. Would you also argue the USA has more than ONE Army because it has many divisions and companies and troops? Of course you wouldn't!

There is not biblical doctrine at demonstrable variance with past history. Because biblical doctrine gives us in written form the complete story of redemptive history without looking to outside sources to prove what is written. That's what the Preterit cannot seem to get a grasp of.

That's Okay, for at least you disagree nobly without any accusing or belittling. Btw, you're very welcome.

Luke 21:20 (KJV) And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Why would Luke be speaking of the physical destruction in 70 AD since Matthew and Mark do not? One thing to notice in Luke is he speaks not of one army or the Roman Army, but...

Gentiles or those of the nations of the world in unbelief trample spiritual Jerusalem from above, heavenly Jerusalem. Spiritually speaking born again believers have entered into Jerusalem, we are "spirits of just men made perfect" when we have been born again. But as Paul below tells us "the...

No, that is not what I claim! What I perceive from Preterits is that THEY use past history to prove a doctrine because the doctrine they espouse cannot be found in Scripture but must be read INTO the Bible!

Like I've said before, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....it's a DUCK!

Okay, I think I understand. I too believe we are still living in the times of the Gentiles and will be until the spiritual Kingdom of God in heaven is complete when the last person to be saved has been born again. Then when the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound that time shall be no longer...

David, I'm really trying to understand the point you're making, but call me dense because I'm just not getting your point? Could you say it in another way? Sorry.

Greetings David, I hope your wife is feeling better. The reason is that some who are Amill as far as time (a thousand years) is concerned, are also Preterit when it comes to what shall become of apostate Israel. Since they have embraced the doctrine of Preterism (although in some cases...

You make a biblical case for discerning these things (Olivet Discourse) spiritually, I come from a little different point of view. I don't believe the words of Christ can be limited to any one age of time. I believe the words of Christ are applicable for people living in every...