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Exactly! The Preterit consistently remains within the Old Covenant prophetic physical world without understanding that when Christ came, He ushered in the Spiritual Kingdom of God from heaven. Just as the physical things of Old Covenant Israel point to spiritual realities once the promised...

You left out one thing that you must also identify, the AOD that is mentioned first, is it spiritual or physical? Why does Christ tell us of the AOD "spoken of by Daniel the prophet"? Why does Mark & Matthew associate fleeing from Judaea to the mountains when understanding the AOD spoken of by...

I can't help it if you can't understand how the AOD spoken by the prophet Daniel is the key given by Christ.

What are you talking about? This is assumption without any biblical verification. Luke makes no mention of Daniel, so how can he provide the synoptic interpretation of Matthew and Mark as well as interpreting Daniel. It's hard to provide a general summary when you leave out that which was...

Thanks Matthias, this is happening in the church my son attends, and yes, he spoke to elders and pastor and no it didn't go anywhere. I have encouraged him to consider leaving, but since his wife is not on board with that, it may create a whole new problem for him. Seeing this particular...

It's not happening in the Church I attend, but the elders and pastor of this particular denomination is rationalizing prayer that asks God to kill our enemies. They believe the Bible grants justification for this type of praying, especially in the Psalms. But all of their rationalizing comes...

This defines my view also. Thank you! Do you believe this manner of elders praying in the congregation is a reason to consider departing from this particular Church?

What biblical justification, if any, is there for Christians to call down harm or that God might kill any man? Have you ever heard of one praying a prayer of imprecation (a spoken curse) by elders in the church while praying in the presence of the congregation? I've recently been hearing this...

Christ did tell them when! And He did not say forty years from now when the Roman Army would wage a great siege upon the city and temple. He answered them by saying, "ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth...

Matthew 24:15 (KJV) When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Mark 13:14 (KJV) But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where...

The disciples of Christ would not have remained in Jerusalem forty years after the cross. Before leaving Christ instructed them to remain there until they received power from on high. From the cross to Pentecost was 50 DAYS not years. Before leaving Christ said when they receive the power of...

I believe when Christ spoke of the stones of the buildings and temple being cast down, He was speaking LITERALLY of the PHYSICAL buildings and temple the disciples seemed to be enamored with. These words were literally, physically fulfilled in 70 AD. But when Christ spoke of abomination of...

You must differentiate between the physical temple of Old Covenant Israel and the spiritual Temple of the New Covenant that is both the body and church of Christ. Why did Christ say the physical temple would be destroyed but be speaking of the temple as His body? Matthew 21:12 (KJV) And...

Not true! The coming 'prince' from the Hebrew is נָגִיד nâgîyd. The same Hebrew word also defines 'Messiah the Prince' of vs 25. If 'he' were some ordinary prince in vs 26 it would be translated from the Hebrew שַׂר sar not from נָגִיד nâgîyd. We find this throughout the book of Daniel...

Yes, the Passion Week of Christ had significant repercussions not only on the Old Covenant nation of Israel, but also repercussions upon Gentile & Jew alike throughout all ages. Those repercussions are good for whosoever among mankind shall be eternally saved, or the repercussions are bad for...

Yes, unbiblical Preterit doctrine is spreading like wildfire especially in these forums!

Yes, we all know the Roman Army physically destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD, history tells us this. How does this historical evidence fulfill the prophesy of Daniel within the 490 years' timeframe? Daniel foretells not only of the city and temple being destroyed and Messiah being cut off, he...

Yes, Charlie in the spiritual sense they did. Because the physical city and temple are representative of the true city and temple which are Jerusalem from above, and Christ is the Spiritual Temple. When the apostate Jews polluted the physical city and temple it symbolizes them bringing...

My thoughts are simple Charlie, this view is the typical Premillennialists POV, reading Daniel's prophesy through the lens of 70 AD. IOW you read the destruction of the city and temple in 70 AD INTO Daniel's prophesy, forcing it to fit. Nowhere in Daniel's prophesy do we read of a "coming...

That is not what the texts tells us. If the prince of the people that was to come is the Roman Army under Titus, how is this unknown prince not the same "he shall confirm the covenant"? Where in these verses does Daniel refer back to Messiah the Prince? Da 9:26 And after threescore and two...