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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    In keeping with what you keep claiming about the flesh, spiritualizing everything is equally a serious problem in interpretation. There's the flesh and then there's the hyper-spiritualization of everything whereby one can make it say whatever they want, just like allegorizing. Whether you like...
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    Work OUT Your Salvation, not FOR

    What does Philippians 2:12 mean when it says, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling"? Ephesians 2:8–9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast." Now get Titus 2:11: Titus 2:11: "For the...
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    TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

    You misunderstand what I said. I simply said you are dispensational. That's not telling you how to live. I said you're dispensational, because if you weren't, then you'd be offering up animal sacrifices for you sins as an addition to the Blood of Christ just as the Hebrew Roots gang believes...
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    TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

    You are indeed dispensational...perhaps not to the extent of many, but you are dispensational nonetheless. BTW
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    OSAS from the Gnostics

    What exactly are you talking about that I had stated that you interpreted as being "stupid?" BTW
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    OSAS from the Gnostics

    Your arrogance is indeed spotlighted for all to see. BTW
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    OSAS from the Gnostics

    Be careful. All those armchair experts out here who criticize anyone cemetary trained, manuscript aware, church experienced will always elicit varying degrees of dislike for any and all evidence against their pet doctrines taught by the many, many false teaching pastors behind pulpits. BTW
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    The Bible shows to us that the Second Coming will be at the end of the tribulation after 2/3rds of the Jews are wiped out. Zechariah 12-14 makes that quite clear as well. BTW
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    TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

    Blessedly, that doesn't erase the distinctions in every facet of the things to come. Notice that the inheritance of the Kingdom land promised ONLY to Abraham and his descendants rather than Gentiles. That's why we as the body of Christ will not inherit the New Earth nor the New Jerusalem. BTW
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    TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

    Sorry about that. I clicked the wrong "Reply" on a post not related. BTW
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    TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

    It's interesting that you quoted me out of context knowing you could not refute the rest of the context. MM
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    Age of Accountability

    Still bits and pieces. That's ok. These topics are indeed interesting. MM
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: The same man who wrote those other references you applied out of their contexts also said this, which means what it says, even within its context. Personally, I prefer to be where the...
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    THE CHURCH IS NOT THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

    That is nothing but replacement theology garbage. Sorry, but Israel will indeed be raised up at the Second Coming of Christ in order to rule the world under the Kingship of Christ Jesus. Jesus stated His purpose to fulfill the Law, not to cast away Israel. Where do you people get this...
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    Age of Accountability

    Please keep in mind that Jesus stated that to Jews; specifically His disciples whom He empowered with many things that were not given to others. Context is vastly important in this regard. My presentation, overall, points only to indications, not something I will declare and absolute doctrine...
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    If churches are failing, how can they be improved

    You truly have mastered the skill of ad hominem...which isn't really a skill per se since it comes naturally to most, but it is what it is. BTW
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    If churches are failing, how can they be improved

    All I can say is that Jesus sent the Comforter into our midst in this life in His place here on this earth. He had to depart so that the Comforter could be here with us. Why that is, I don't know. What I do know is that His presence is manifested through Holy Spirit. The word of God says what it...
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    If churches are failing, how can they be improved

    The answer, of course, is because Yah allowed it to be this way. If you don't like what He is allowing to transpire, then perhaps you should try to shove Him off His Throne and take over yourself... I would not recommend harboring such an attitude, however, because it gets one nowhere... You...
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    TWO GOSPELS THAT CANNOT BE THE SAME

    It's a very simple thing to read Acts 2 where Peter stated that the Jews must be water baptized unto the remission of their sins for salvation, and then compare that to 1 Cor. 15 where Paul's gospel said nothing about the requirement for water baptism to the Gentiles for remission of sins for...
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    If churches are failing, how can they be improved

    Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged. It's not about standardizing or anything else in any of all the man-made institutions that most call their "church."...