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Yes Marty, I agree whosoever among mankind experiences suffering and affliction it is tribulation to them. OTOH great tribulation that Christ said His disciples must endure comes from faithfulness to proclaim the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ. Christ tells us all these things are...

How is great tribulation mentioned in Rev 2:18 any different than great tribulation Christ said His disciples must endure? Christ is writing to the church telling the church (His disciples) warning them of great tribulation that would come upon them if they don't repent for allowing false...

From my perspective I view the time of trouble, even trouble(s) that have come against Jews in this world, also came/come from the wrath of God. Just as God used Titus and the Roman Army to devastate apostate Israel, I believe God also used Hitler and the German Nazis to accomplish His purpose...

Marty, it is not my intention to attack or offend you! I have always thought of you as being more like-minded in biblical doctrine as I, with the exception of this particular preterist doctrine. In the past I kept silent when this doctrine came up for fear of offending those whom I call...

Not everyone is deceived only those who embrace the false doctrine of PP/FP. Apparently, that describes you! Because it is also apparent that truth once again does not set well with you when it comes from fellow Christians that you don't like! Sorry, but truth is more important to me than...

I don't deny that Marty! Problem is you also say the destruction of Israel in 70 AD was also called tribulation for them, implying the words Christ spoke SPECIFICALLY to His disciples about what they/we faithful saints MUST endure as we preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God through Christ...

What seems often missed by FP/PP is how "great tribulation" that shall come against the building of the Kingdom of God in heaven as the Gospel of Christ is preached, comes through the power of evil and continues until the end of time when Christ shall come again! OTOH the "wrath" that comes...

Thank you for pointing out the argument I've been making which is how the destruction of Israel is not called "great tribulation", it is the same promise God has always made toward a disobedient, hard hearted people in unbelief, promising His WRATH would come upon them.

Truth annoying you??? Are you also deceived by the doctrine of PP, and therefore call speaking truth Pride? I do agree Scripture affirms "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." Matthew 7:3 (KJV) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye...

Where in Scripture do we read "The wrath of God was also a tribulation period for apostate Israel"? Also we aren't talking about many tribulation(s) for people. We are discussing "great tribulation" (not THE) that Christ warned His disciples they would be called to endure as they preach the...

I understand Marty, I once also believed Partial Preterism solved the problems that FP forced into the Bible. As I continued to seek for better understanding I realized PP, trying to solve the problems that come with FP also forces contradiction and confusion into the Word of God. Even here in...

Luke is repeating the same promise of vengeance against the nation they have always been warned of if they forsake God. This should prove to you that the words Christ spoke to "this" particular generation was never exclusively to "that generation". Because every generation coming before them...

Then perhaps you should explain more clearly why you appear to believe Christ was more preoccupied with what would become of the apostate nation of Israel, than He was concerned of what would come against the spiritual Kingdom of God as the Gospel of Christ is proclaimed unto all the nations of...

I hear what you're saying Marty, but I wonder if you hear me? I realize trying to show a Preterit why their doctrine is built upon sand is a waste of time. But, I also see how this unbiblical doctrine is making progress, deceiving many into believing Christ was not consumed with what would...

Do you really believe that Marty? The Old Covenant served a specific purpose; the Law was their tutor to drive them to Christ long before He came. Do you really believe the literal city, and temple would have remained standing to be thought the holy city and temple after Christ, the True...

The problem for the Preterit Marty, is that was not all that had to come to pass in that generation for your doctrine to be true!

Marty, it is not the destruction of the Old Covenant that drives anyone to Christ. Salvation through Christ both of Old and now under the New Covenant has always been by grace through faith. Christ says "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN" to both Jew and Gentile! Jew and Gentile alike must believe the...

As I've already said Marty, destroying the Old Jewish temple did not prevent apostate unbelieving Jews from observing as many of the Old Covenant Laws possible without the temple. Still today Jews in unbelief continue to keep many of the Old Laws while still waiting for the promised Messiah to...

There is nothing here that I disagree with! You show good spiritual understanding of how God speaks of His congregation/church as His Temple. Also, I'm sure you understand from many verses and passages of God revealing to His people judgments before the physical judgment is poured out. Here...