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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I see that logic is not one of your strong points. Which I've known for some time now. I see I have to spell it out to you. You saying that I know nothing, TOO, means you're admitting that you know nothing. Not that you need to admit that. It's already painfully obvious.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I know more than you, obviously, but I'm glad you admit that you know nothing.
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    It's part of the purpose of the comparison, as any unbiased person reading what He actually said can see. You make the mention of the flood having destroyed all unbelievers completely pointless and meaningless, as I already told you. You can deny that all you want, but it's true. Okay. So? Why...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I don't. You can't tell me what I'm doing. We don't think alike at all, so how do you think you can pretend to know how I think and that you can speak for me? You can't. That is implied because He specifically mentions that the flood "took them all away" and immediately after that He said "so...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    This is all you have to say in response to my post? How about putting a bit more thought into this? Do you think Paul would have been unfamiliar with the time period that is referred to in Revelation 20 as the thousand years? He was not.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    This is what is called an argument from silence. Do you expect that every passage that refers to the second coming of Christ has to contain all of the details about that event? That's not a reasonable expectation. Using that type of argument, someone could argue that passages like 1...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    USA/IRAN/ISRAEL PEACE DEAL?

    There is no indication of that in the text itself whatsoever. In the context of what Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 5, who are the ones saying "peace and safety" there? Those who are in spiritual darkness. Which describes all unbelievers throughout the world. All unbelievers are saying this. In...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    So, your answer to my question is yes. In the air, right? As Paul said (1 Thessalonians 4:14-17). No idea of what you're talking about. I'm simply going by what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:42-54 and not just making things up as many on this forum do. Have you ever read it? Let what go? If...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You say you just follow what the Word of God says. What does the Word of God say here about what will happen when Jesus returns... 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Right. There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that Jesus was not speaking literally there. When He wanted to speak figuratively or non-literally in the Olivet Discourse, He told parables. Matthew 24:15-22 is not a parable.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Jesus did not talk about great tribulation that would be "worse than ever before or ever again". Read what He actually said instead of what you imagine that He said. He said there would be great tribulation unlike any that ever had been before or ever would be again (such as not has been or...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So, he needs you to speak for him? LOL. No one believes in more ridiculous nonsense than you do. Ladies and gentlemen, this comedian here who calls himself "TribulationSigns" does not believe that there is such thing as spirit beings called the devil/Satan, demons and angels. This guy can't...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes, I know that. In Daniel 9:26-27. I'm not going to buy your preterist nonsense. The book of Revelation is about Jesus Christ and His church and His enemies and covers the entire New Testament time period and has nothing to do with 70 AD.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Christ has already returned ?

    Neither does he. Not even close. He's a preterist.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Luke 21:23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    That has a different context than Revelation 7. That great tribulation spoken by Christ relates to God's wrath rather than trials and tribulation that believers go through. Compare Matthew 24:21 to Luke 21:23-24. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The day of the Lord is the same day of the rapture (our being gathered and caught up to Christ). 2 Thessalonians 2:1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    USA/IRAN/ISRAEL PEACE DEAL?

    I think there's something you are missing here. Paul indicated that the "sudden destruction" was something that would come upon more than just Jerusalem and Judea because he told the Thessalonian believers that the way to avoid the sudden destruction was by being in the spiritual light rather...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So, it seems that you would relate the great tribulation of Revelation 7 to the "much tribulation" that all of us have to go through to enter the kingdom of God, as Acts 14:22 says? We don't all have to endure persecution and even martyrdom like Stephen did, but, as Acts 14:22 indicates, we all...