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Do you really? It sure hasn't seemed like it. It's clear that rwb wasn't understanding what he was saying, at least. Do you need him to talk for you just like you feel the need to talk for rwb? Are you afraid to ask me that question directly? What is so funny about this? Do you not think that...

Once again, you failed to answer my question first before asking another question. I asked you why you asked me if I "believe the Mark of the Beast is active in Matt 24:31?". I'd like to have some idea of where you're going with this so that I can determine if this is worth my time to continue...

What he and I are talking about is completely different than what you and I are talking about. He does not agree with your pre-trib dispensationalist beliefs, either.

Galatians 3:26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If...

So, I will assume this response means that you acknowledge that Romans 8:31-34 describes the elect in relation to the church, but somehow the elect in Matthew 24:31 are not the same elect as in Romans 8:31-34. I don't know why you would think that scripture would not be consistent whenever...

Just answer my question about who the elect are in Romans 8:31-34 and then I will answer your question. This is how adult discussions work. By answering the question it doesn't mean you are necessarily agreeing with me about what Matthew 24:31 means, so don't be afraid to answer the question.

I don't attack Israel at all. That is a lie from the pit of hell. I want everyone in Israel and the rest of the world to be saved just as God does (1 Timothy 2:3-6). Don't make excuses for being wicked and condemning me. Stop thinking that you are Jesus. He doesn't need you to do His job for...

Is the question THAT I ASKED YOU FIRST too hard for you? Do you not know how to have a discussion like an adult?

Look at what is going to happen to you if you continue to condemn me. Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

Okay, it looks like you don't want to have an adult discussion, so I'm done with this. I told you that I'm not interested in having a discussion where I answer your questions, but you don't answer mine. This response shows that you are not interested in having an adult discussion where each...

LOL. That's what we've been doing and you've struggled mightily just to address the basics. You are doing everything you can to avoid what Romans 8:31-34 indicates about who the elect are. You think the mark of the beast is the basics? There's probably about 1,000 different interpretations of...

Are my questions too difficult for you? Instead of answering, you feel the need to try to condemn me despite the fact that the measure you use to condemn me will be used against you (Matthew 7:1-2)?

Do you deny that the body of Christ are the elect, as the following indicates? Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all...

Keep telling yourself that, Stuart.

How many times do I have to show you the same passage before you will address what it indicates? Paul taught that the church (those who belong to Christ) are the elect in this passage. Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did...

That's a lie. You haven't answered my question even once. Who do the following passages indicate that God's people Israel are? Romans 9:6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all...

You don't need to post the same thing to me 3 times (twice here and once in the other thread. Please grow up and stop playing games.

They are mistaken. Paul indicates that those in the church are the elect. Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things...

Scripture teaches that the elect are all Christians who belong to God, so the gathering of the church when Jesus comes and we are gathered to Him is the gathering of the elect. Romans 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare...