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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    5. Revelation: The New Jerusalem.

    You believe that people whose names are not written in the book of life will receive eternal life? That is absolutely false. How can that be? Only those whose names are written in the book of life will inherit eternal life at that time. Jesus indicated that everyone will either inherit eternal...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    As if you've never been hostile and disrespectful to me? You know you have. Also, you don't seem to understand that we're supposed to rebuke fellow believers when they blatantly twist God's word as you are doing with Revelation 2:22. It's not acceptable and I'm not going to sugarcoat that. You...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    And to you. And may you some day have a discussion with us where you don't misrepresent almost everything we say.
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    No, I'm not saying that at all. Not sure how you got that from what I said. When Jesus returns from heaven in the future, the souls and spirits of all dead believers from all-time will be with Him and will be united with their resurrected, changed bodies and they, along with those who are alive...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Right. Let's see, is this one of the 4 times Jesus (allegedly) referred to a pre-trib rapture? 29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Well, I completely disagree then. Neither do I. Speak for yourself and others if you want. Don't speak for me. Sure, but we live in the realm of time and scripture is given to us from that perspective that we can understand. I don't and won't think of it from that frame of mind because I...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You interpreted his words the way you interpret scripture. Completely out of context. He was saying that you are deceived by a doctrine that comes from the serpent. He is not calling you a serpent, he's saying you are believing a lie coming from the serpent, which is Satan. You believe in a...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    And another false claim! They never end from you. I have a problem with the word assurance as YOU were using it in terms of it coming from God. The word faith relates to having confidence and trust in God, as I already said. Read Ephesians 1:12-13. It refers to faith in terms of trusting in...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Well, bless YOUR heart for once again misrepresenting my view. You're excellent at that. You said the baptism of the Holy Spirit was a corporate thing on the day of Pentecost and I disagreed and never agreed with that. You saying "now you're disagreeing" is just flat out dishonest. Why do you do...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You said "In genesis, the purpose of the flood was to wipe out humanity. Jesus is not “specifically pointing that out”. Jesus specifically pointed out that the flood "took them all away", so how is He not specifically pointing that out? He did. Nowhere does it say that literally all of the...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I see a problem with your view. If the white robes represent the receiving of the gift of the Holy Spirit, then Old Testament saints would have received the permanent gift of the Holy Spirit on the day when Jesus died, which is when He told the thief on the cross that he would be with Him in...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Right. He has a lot of trouble keeping things straight. But, what he won't acknowledge is that Revelation 2:22 talks about great tribulation in terms of God's wrath coming against the false prophetess Jezebel and anyone else who was influenced by her to do things like commit sexual immortality...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you even read the verse? It's not talking about persecution against the church, it's talking about God's punishment against the unrepentant. Just read the verse for yourself in context and see. Revelation 2:20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    The only thing he can say is what he has been saying today. Just making false accusations towards post-tribs and failing to do the thing he falsely accuses post-tribs of, which is addressing the scriptures. He doesn't address the scriptures at all. He gives chapters and verses of some scriptures...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    4. Revelation: Christ the Judge.

    Why do you ignore most of that verse? Heb_2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. All current things are under Him, but not all future...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Right. He does all this whining about people supposedly not being willing to address his arguments, but as soon as someone challenges him to a debate, he runs away.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Your arguments have been addressed many times by post-tribbers on this forum and you know it, so why act otherwise? WPM is offering to debate you on all of those scriptures you're referencing (while you didn't exegete any of them). So, if you want to be taken seriously, you will accept his offer.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. Mark 13:24 “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars of heaven will fall, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    So, you admit making things personal, but you give yourself an excuse for it. Somehow, it's only wrong if others get personal, but it's perfectly fine when you do it. LOL! LOL! Says the baby whose little feelings get hurt constantly, as evidenced by all the whining you're doing in all of your...