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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    This guy thinks that He has the authority to redefine "the tribulation of those days", as if he has more authority than Jesus Himself. You can't possibly be more delusional than this guy is. While everyone else is talking about the timing of the coming of Christ and rapture in relation to "the...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    LOL! No. Jesus is coming once in the future and He will come from heaven in like manner as He ascended there (visibly and bodily - Acts 1:9-11). Your convoluted nonsense surely does not unpack it. MANY post-tribs have unpacked those verses included several on this forum and you stubbornly...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You know there's other accounts of the Olivet Discourse, right? What is going to happen is that the souls of the dead in Christ will be gathered from heaven and then their resurrected, changed bodies united with their souls will be gathered along with those who are alive and remain from the...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    When you say "pretrib", you mean pre-final wrath. You use the pretrib term differently than everyone else does, so it causes confusion and causes you to look like an ignorant fool. What Jesus taught is that the rapture will occur just before the final wrath comes down when Jesus returns. In that...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You complaining about someone else being too vague is like a robot designer complaining about an Amish person being too much into technology.
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    They have their ready made scripts that they read from repeatedly and they are not able to respond if someone says something to them that requires them to go off script.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You confuse rebukes of your false teaching with a lack of grace. You expect that everyone here has to walk on egg shells when talking to you while being careful not to offend you. You expect to come on here with your holier than thou attitude and that people will just accept everything you have...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes, there's been so much grace coming from you towards me. Right, buddy? Or not. Your hypocrisy makes me wonder about some things...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Agree. If I thought that only they were reading what we're saying, then it would definitely be a complete waste of time. They put very little effort into trying to understand what others believe, so they end up constantly misrepresenting what others believe. Then they congratulate themselves on...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Wrong. This is a parable. You need eyes to see and ears to hear what it's saying. The parable is not giving a fixed timeline of events from beginning to end. Yes, the description of the invitation going out to the highways is given after the description of the destruction of the city, but that...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You continue to not understand what he is saying. He is not saying that Jerusalem was still the holy city or that the physical temple was still holy at that time. He is saying that they were destroyed because of foolishly thinking that it was still the holy city and that the temple was still...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    LOL! So, when I want to say something to you, should I tell someone else to relay the message to you instead of just talking to you directly? LOL! You are a silly person. Yes, you do have the free will to choose to act like a child if you want. I can't stop you. Very good point there. You're...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I believe that those who are sealed by the Spirit at the time Matthew 24:31 occurs are the elect who will be gathered by the angels at that time. That would include both the resurrected dead in Christ and those believers who are alive and remain until then. Do you believe that Matthew 24:31...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    USA/IRAN/ISRAEL PEACE DEAL?

    I'm not claiming to be part of the physical nation of Israel. I claim to be part of the spiritual Israel that passages like Romans 9:6-8, Galatians 6:15-16 and Ephesians 2:11-22 describe. Is Romans 9:6-8 in your Bible or not? Tell me exactly how you interpret that passage. Two Israels are...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    This is irrelevant to what we're talking about. We're talking about those who are elect at the time Jesus returns, regardless of what their former status might have been. According to scripture, the elect are Christians in the church.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    When did I say I've done that? Never. I actually do give a like to posts of people like him if they say things I agree with. And he has seen that. And you will see that, too, if you ever say something I agree with.