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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Then you don't really believe God is in control, but only that he controls some things. I agree. Because if you say he controls all, that includes every atom in the universe and every brain cell of every human being.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Lol, of course conviction isn't conversion, because most use thier Free Will to reject what God convicts them about. Where does it say it doesn't refer to all men? I just showed you that it does indeed refer to all, because God convicts all.
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    The rich man and the beggar at his gate?

    No one is condemned simply because of thier wealth.
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    The rich man and the beggar at his gate?

    Why? That's simply not what the story says. " there was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Self-determination and free will are essentially the same things. I believe animals have limited free will, but it's not really an issue one way or another. A possum can only be a possum, but that doesn't necessarily mean God is meticulously controlling his every wandering step.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    There's no need to expound on Calvinist double-speak. It's just a circular statement that goes nowhere. "We are free to choose, as long as we choose whatever God has already chosen for us." would be a more honest way of saying the same thing.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    If you direct someone's behavior and you have the power to direct even their thoughts, as God does, that would certainly be choosing for them.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    You obviously only skimmed what I wrote. No, I don't agree with Piper. I was contrasting his statements with Tozer's. And I find this all pretty self-explanatory. I don't know why you need more explanation.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    I don't ignore any of this. I simply believe God convicts all men, because that is what scripture teaches. But I tell you the truth, it is for your benefit that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you. 8And when He comes, He...
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    The rich man and the beggar at his gate?

    It's not that hard to understand. You are just deliberately looking for scripture to pit against other scripture instead of accepting what is clearly taught.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    con·trol /kənˈtrōl/ See definitions in: All Computing Statistics Intelligence Bridge noun 1. the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events. "the whole operation is under the control of a production manager" Now, apply this to a Being with ultimate, complete power. I...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Post #687, the one you replied to and claimed I didn't explain what I mean by "control".
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    It's the same topic.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosen 2chosen by the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    I believe some people are beyond conversion because they have blasphemed the Spirit, that is, rejected him totally. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible in the case of those who have once been enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 tasted the good word of...
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    The rich man and the beggar at his gate?

    Ok, I'm trying to understand what you are saying here, but I'm not quite getting it." Jesus becomes a human sacrifice for a capricious yah?" In what world? Simply because I confirm that believers go to heaven when they die and others go to hell? Is your whole point here to deny hell? I don't...
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    The rich man and the beggar at his gate?

    "The red moose backwards under the full moon if you speak nonsense fluently. " That's about as sensible as your convoluted posts. Can't make heads or tails from them.
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    The rich man and the beggar at his gate?

    Yes Jesus is the ladder, the way to enter, not from hell into heaven, but from Earth to heaven.
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Job 37 speaks of God being Lord over creation. I'm not sure how that applies to God controlling men's actions or thoughts. And your last paragraph is self-contradictory. That isn't complete control. To merely give men choices doesn't control the choices they make. You need to make up your mind...
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    Saved Or Predestined ???

    Lol, I just explained that. Are you actually reading my post?