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  1. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    You don't understand the concept of objective study. The graduates of today's Bible cemeteries, er seminaries, can't hold a candle to Luther, Wycliffe, Melancthon, Tyndale, Zwingle, and the rest of these highly credentialed theologians to whom the truth was more dear than life itself. Has it...
  2. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    So, since you see that the prophecy began the same time of the 70 Weeks - 457 B.C.- but ends at a time that cannot be tied to any "Jesuit Futurism" explanation, rather than continue to study, you revert back to Jesuit Futurism. That's OK, pal, you ain't the first to do that. Cognitive Dissonance...
  3. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Brother, I mean you no harm when I say that the Papacy is the Antichrist, which means "In Stead Of Christ"- if you'll look that up, you'll see it's true. But, no one can take Christ's stead, claim His titles, attributes, and authority, and remain guiltless. If you'll read Revelation 18:1-4 KJV...
  4. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    What's wrong with quoting great Protestant men like Luther and Hislop when their beliefs are Biblically based? Your belief that the Eucharist is Biblical is incorrect, friend. Jesus Himself said "the flesh profiteth nothing", but that His WORDS are what are Spirit and Life, but the Papacy...
  5. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Why do you call me a blind fool? Where are your calculation in that post? Where in that post do you demonstrate a starting date and ending date of the 2,300 prophetic Days, or literal YEARS? Unless I missed something, your post is wholly inadequate to explain the prophecy.
  6. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    Unlike humans, demons are experientially aware of the sublime heavenly realm they lost and their impending torment to come. The greatest evidence that they no longer possess the ability to repent is that they, while knowing of the matchless sublimity from whence they came, continue onward...
  7. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    No, ATP, you sound as if you believe they could still be saved if they chose to accept it, which is not right. Lucifer and the devils all once possessed eternal life but lost it through sin from which they refused to repent and eventually became incapable of repenting of it. The same holds true...
  8. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    What are you talking about? There is simply no other way to understand the 2,300 Days prophecy, but to calculate from 457 B.C. to 1844 A.D. Unless you are a Jesuit. I'm beginning to think you are a Jesuit operative, based on how much you preach their dogma
  9. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    "Righteousness" means "right doing" bro. That's exactly what it means. If Jesus is "doing righteousness" through you, it will be evident in your works. If your works are otherwise, it is evidence that Satan is still on the heart throne.
  10. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Q. When did the Day of Atonement - the time when the sanctuary was to be cleansed - take place? A. "Unto 2,300 Days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Daniel 8:14 KJV (The 2,300 Days and the 70 Weeks both begin at the same time - 457 B.C. - because the 70 Weeks shorter portion was cut off...
  11. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    OSAS believers can't understand that the necessity of obedience is not to earn salvation but to prove that it has been accepted. They are under the delusion that an unsaved lost person can manifest obedience and attempt to claim it as payment for his sin, when the verse below is clear that such...
  12. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    The devils believe, and tremble.
  13. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    Bro, "righteousness" means "right doing". OSAS believers claim that a saved person is righteous while he lives in sin. That's such a sad distortion of the Gospel. The worst suffering in hell will be felt not by mass murderers or other such wicked men, but false prophets who lead the people to...
  14. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    ATP, you've got to take the whole of Scripture into account, as you know. When you assemble everything the Bible has to say about the Salvation experience, the picture is clear: You are saved by grace, not by works. Your works prove that you have been saved by grace and your lack of works prove...
  15. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Of COURSE they were "things which must be hereafter" because they were FUTURE EVENTS. That certainly doesn't mean they didn't start unfolding in John's day, because each of the three can easily be explained to match what happened in history, hence the name "Historicism". The 7 Churches are the...
  16. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Where did I say there were trumpet blasts on the DoA? The Trumpets are blown before hand to announce the soon arrival of the DoA. I said the Feast of Trumpets in prophecy were the events which took place before the DoA of 1844, the "cleansing of the Sanctuary" which took place at the end of...
  17. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    ATP, my point is that there is MORE to just "professing" and "believing" if we are to be saved. Our profession and belief are nothing if they are not accompanied by works, just as the Bible says. As in the case in the wilderness with Jesus, the devil preaches only half the truth and the "itchy...
  18. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    ATP, do you understand that by saying "Holy One", the devils profess and acknowledge Jesus as the "prophesied Messiah", the Savior of the world??? Of course they believe He is God, Lord, and Savior! Like the devils, OSAS believers acknowledge Jesus as God, Lord, and Savior but refuse to...
  19. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    ATP, John was already "in the Spirit" on the Sabbath and receiving visions since from chapter 1, so who cares if he was "taken up" in chapter 4, when he was already in vision? There's absolutely no prophetic significance to that - it is a private interpretation by those who needed an imaginary...
  20. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Nothing I've written indicates I'm suggesting a Rapture on two different days. There is only one Rapture, and that is at the Second Coming of Christ, when both the dead and living saints are "caught up".