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  1. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    They most certainly do: "And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice, Saying, Let [us] alone; what have we to do with thee, [thou] Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God."...
  2. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Wrong. The 7 Churches, Seals, and Trumpets are parallel prophecies - John the Revelator saw them begin to unfold as Jesus our High Priest stood in the Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary, meaning they have to begin unfolding before He moves from there to the Most Holy Place and begins cleansing...
  3. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    "For the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19 KJV "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." James 2:24 KJV "Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." John 8:34 KJV "If we (I, James, and you to whom I write, brethren) sin willfully after...
  4. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Something you've never been taught - please consider: As you know, the Feast of Trumpets signaled the approach of the Day of Atonement when the "Sanctuary was Cleansed" and if you look up in the Hebrew encyclopedias you will find that the Day of Atonement is synonymous with the Day of JUDGMENT...
  5. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Yes, these verses apply to "the Israel of God" which heeded Jesus' warning in 70 AD while Christ's enemies fell to Titus' sword. And apply also centuries later, when "the Israel of God" fled from demonic Papal persecution for exactly 1,260 prophetic days (literal years from 538 AD - 1798 AD)...
  6. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    Dear friend, Jesus Himself clarified that He spoke symbolically, saying flesh doesn't profit, but only His WORD, in verse 63, which is what I base my belief in. There is no mention in the entire Bible of the transubstantiation - Luther said it and the rest of false Papal doctrine comes from the...
  7. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    The Devils believe and tremble.
  8. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    ATP, no one is talking about "snatching" or "kidnapping". Those promises you posted refer to "involuntary removal from His hand" - which I fully believe the Lord will never allow happen to the Christian who desires to remain in His hand. However, my claim is that the individual Christian may...
  9. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    According to the book, The Two Babylons, by Alexander Hislop, the "Eucharist" is actually a baptized form of the identical practice found in pagan Sun Worship where the round wafer placed in the half-moon monstrance represents the pagan male-diety reproductive member placed within the pagan...
  10. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    You SHOULD go with the church because the church is the only Israel of God that will ever be referred to as such.
  11. Phoneman777

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    So "we" doesn't mean the writer of Hebrews and his fellow Christian brethren to whom he is writing? And you call me a sloppy scholar? LOL
  12. Phoneman777

    Protestants trying to figure it all out

    At the Council of Trent, the Jesuits were commissioned by the Pope with the task of developing an interpretation of eschatology that would overthrow the Protestant Reformation. You are free to believe Ribera ignored the Pope's request to be subjective but you will dethrone the most confused...
  13. Phoneman777

    Protestants trying to figure it all out

    There is no possible way Francisco Ribera can be correct, Justaname. He didn't approach the Bible prayerfully asking for a revelation of truth, but for confirmation of what he had already decided was truth - that the Papacy was not the Antichrist - and since when does this approach ever lead to...
  14. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    You can't help yourself, can you? Can't even just say "the church" or "modern Israel", can you?
  15. Phoneman777

    Protestants trying to figure it all out

    I think it's best that we rely on the prophets God has already sent us: John the Revelator, Daniel, etc. Unfortunately, many today who believe in a secret Rapture followed by the rise of a one man Antichrist during the last seven years of tribulation are following the false prophecies of Jesuit...
  16. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    ATP, how can you acknowledge Paul's Galatians 6:16 KJV reference to "the Israel of God" as "the church", but still insist that literal Israel is the focus of prophecy? The word "those" to whom Paul pronounces peace and mercy is a literal reference, but "the Israel of God" to whom Paul is...
  17. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    I don't read his lengthy posts. I've told him if he wants people to read them, he's got to start limiting their size and exercising restraint.
  18. Phoneman777

    Protestants trying to figure it all out

    Yes, but what about other things like the identity of the Beast, the Mark of the Beast, the Number of the Beast, the Restrainer, whether the 70th Week is future, OSAS, who is the Israel of end time prophecy, etc? Is it really "open mindedness" to cast all these aside as "not pertaining to the...
  19. Phoneman777

    Protestants trying to figure it all out

    Of course you don't see what all the fuss is about, because at the risk of sounding harsh, you do not realize that the Pre-Trib Rapture idea is not true Protestantism. As delicately as I can say it, I have to say that you are an unwary Jesuit sympathizer. How can I make such an outrageous claim...
  20. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    I've asked you a very simple question which does not require an entire wall of confusion such as you have presented and I have not read, but requires only a two word answer: either "the church" or "modern Israel". Now, I'll ask you again: To whom was Paul referring when he said that peace would...