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There are MANY verses that teach just that, but the point of this thread is whether or not "agape-less" people who once had agape will go to heaven.

"Agape-less" people will not be in heaven so the process of elimination should help you figure out where they will go, bro.

ATP, you are alone in your belief that the Bible teaches that the "agape-less" people of verse 12 will go to heaven, bro.

ATP, did you not read the OP? Please do not post OSAS "proof texts" here. This scope of this thread is Matthew 24:12-13 KJV, capice? Post them at "The Doctrine of OSAS" by Justaname.

Amen, although the "many" of verse 12 are saved-by-grace-through-faith saints, they will be lost and die the same death they allowed their agape to die at the hands of iniquity when Jesus stood by ready to help them endure to the end as does the man of verse 13.

I only read the first sentence of your lengthy post because it is enough. "Growing cold" is the process under which their agape will go, but the result is cold, dead agape, understand? First cooling, and then cold and dead. Not "cooling but still alive and kicking", but cold and dead and...

ATP, I fully expected you to show up and totally ignore the focus of this OP which is the implication of the cold death of the agape love of these saints which will go to hell for failing to endure to the end as those who will be saved will do.

[removed by the mod] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But, he that shall...

The same verse that says they had no root also says they "rejoiced" and "believed" for a time. These which you claim are "non-believers" must have been the stupidest pagans in all of history, rejoicing and believing in a kingdom where their supersonic sexual licentious pagan worship will never...

Everyone knows that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the Unpardonable Sin (Matthew 12:31 KJV). What everyone seems to ignore is that blasphemy is Biblically defined as (1) to claim the power to forgive sins (Luke 5:21 KJV), and (2) to "make thyself God" (John 10:33 KJV). Comparing these...

Satan accuses but God reasons with us (Isaiah 1:18 KJV).

Absolutely. There is no such thing as being clothed with the Robe of Righteousness while simultaneously stripping one's self naked and climbing into bed with Satan. What OSAS folks don't understand is that it is at that time that God is most merciful, begging and pleading for the offender to...

The OP suggests that the Unpardonable Sin - blasphemy against the Holy Spirit - is one specific sin which cannot be forgiven. When one considers that the job of the Holy Spirit is to convict the world of sin, of right doing, and of judgment, then it is easy to see that refusing to allow the...

ATP, don't you see that you simultaneously claim to believe faith without works is dead but in the same breath deny this very thing by insisting that the cessation of works by one who has turned from Jesus back to the old sinful, work-less lifestyle leaves their faith yet alive? "Whatsover is...

The evidence that one knows Jesus (and all that is imparted to us through our knowing Him) is obedience, according to 1 John 2:3-4 KJV, Perhaps you should consider that James is defining the relationship between faith and works, and not presenting works as the post-Calvary "estranged husband"...

Landmines such as OSAS, left alone, can have devastating effects on the unsuspecting wayfaring soul.

ATP, how many times do I have to school you on this? The Rich Man and Lazarus is parable intentionally left uninterpreted in order to establish the false doctrine of Eternal Torment which has nothing to do with the sound exegesis of the properly interpreted parable of The Unmerciful Servant - a...

Read the 2nd chapter of James. Y'know, where he says faith without works is both dead (James 2:26 KJV) and powerless to save (James 2:14 KJV)? As for OSAS, at the core of this doctrine lies the (erroneous) belief that works need not be manifested in the life of one converted to Christ - only...

Funny how the belief of the people in Scripture - like Abraham who obeyed God's voice, charge, commandments, statutes, and laws - always led to action, while the belief of OSAS folks always leads to the criminalization of action, especially when it comes to the Sabbath. We're so blessed to have...

Epic face palm in 3...2...1....