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  1. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Upp, I'm sure you are convinced that you are correct in your belief regarding the origin of the Sabbath and the Ten Commandments, which is fine with me. I've shared my beliefs and reasons or them, as you have done, so we'll just have to let the Holy Spirit convict as He sees fit. If you...
  2. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Such simplicity, yet so many cannot grasp it, bro. That's why people insist on shifting the discussion to what God requires for us to be saved from what He requires from us after we have obtained salvation: the former being to simply believe that Jesus is both Savior and Lord to all that come to...
  3. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying that "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me". Can't be written in the heart? Or, "Honor thy Father and Mother"? God promised to "write My laws" in our hearts, did he not? Surely, that includes "thou shalt have no other gods before Me" and "Honor...
  4. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Upp, you are the most unreasonable, confused Christian I've ever encountered. You claim the Old Covenant was the law although I've shown you from Scripture that the law was merely a component of the Old Covenant and is also a component of the New Covenant. You claim Christians are not obligated...
  5. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    I fully understand the Gospel, which is not the false version which redefines what it means to "love" others. It is a distorted, fragmented version. The True Gospel has Jesus as both Savior Who covers our sin AND our Lord to be obeyed. The True Gospel does not redefine "love" to include...
  6. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Good, we agree that if we love God and our neighbor, we will keep the Ten Commandments. And those who refuse to heed the Holy Spirit's pleadings to turn from breaking them are devoid of that love. "He that hateth his brother is a murderer, and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding...
  7. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    What many do not get is that Jesus is not looking for lip service. "This people draweth nigh unto Me with their lips and do honor Me with their mouths, but their hearts are from Me." "In VAIN do they worship Me, keeping for doctrines the commandments of men." Here, we see that worship is...
  8. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    "If ye love Me, keep My commandments." Then aren't the "Ten Suggestions".
  9. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Then why is every single one of the Ten Commandments repeated in the NT to Christians if they "perished"? It is because they are eternal. As I've often said, if the Ten Commandments do not apply to Christians, please tell me which we are free to break.
  10. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    If you love God, you will: 1. have no other gods before Me. 2. not engage in idolatry. 3. not blaspheme the name of God. 4. keep the seventh day Sabbath holy. If you love you neighbor, you will: 5. honor father and mother. 6. not kill. 7. not commit adultery. 8. not steal. 9. not lie. 10. not...
  11. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You can't "keep" everyday as a Sabbath because God only designated one day as a Sabbath rest and commanded us to work the other six. The rest in Jesus that I enjoy is evidenced by my weekly Sabbath rest which tells the world that my God is the Creator Who made the world in six days and rested...
  12. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Yes, it can mean "one man" but how narrow minded does one have to be to think that it was only for one man? Of course it was created for "mankind", meaning all of us. Why do you deny that we will be keeping the seventh day Sabbath in heaven, when Isaiah 66:23 KJV clearly says that "from one...
  13. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    You are entitled to your opinion, though I firmly disagree. You are referring to Hebrews 8:13 KJV when you speak of "fading" and "becoming obsolete", but that text is actually speaking of the Old Covenant, not the Ten Commandments and we cannot Biblically replace the one for the other. Proof...
  14. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    The law of God is only a burden to those who don't love Jesus. I believe that you love Jesus, but you don't understand the difference between Justification and Sanctification. The one happens as soon as we surrender our hearts to Him, and the other is a life long process where we are...
  15. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Good question: Jesus used many temporal things to explain eternal things, and we shouldn't be willfully ignorant of ancient object lessons that we still use today. Something "written in stone" is regarded just as much today as 3,500 years ago as having to do with an eternal, unchangeable nature...
  16. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    The word means "mankind", which is not "one man". Will "one man" be keeping the Sabbath in heaven? No, everyone will keep it because it was created for everyone. Sorry for being so "stiff-necked" but the Lord said that that we are to "keep His commandments and do those things which are pleasing...
  17. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    WB, Upp. The Ten Commandments are clearly repeated to Christians in the N.T., unlike the Mosaic Law which is referred to as "against us", "shadows", "nothing", and "carnal" ("carnal" due to the fact that they applied to those of the human family, while "the angels delight to do His...
  18. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    mrhealth, stop making excuses for your deliberate daily choice to sin against God. Do you not love Jesus enough to keep His commandments? Then choose to obey Him. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to give into the devil when he comes with his temptation.
  19. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    Brother, don't believe the lies of Satan which some here hold as truth. Presumptuous sins are not covered by the blood of Jesus, though those who love sin would like that to be so. The Bible is clear that "he that covereth his sin shall not prosper, but whosoever CONFESSETH AND FORSAKETH his sin...
  20. Phoneman777

    Sabbath-Keeping

    FYI, the text "If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us" refers to people like Ted Turner who claim to have no need for salvation because they claim they have no sin. It does not mean that Christians continue to sin presumptuously after they accept Jesus as...