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    Flat Earth Theory

    You just said the four corners of Israel aren’t describing the geometry or even a square. So why is the same phrase geometric when it’s applied to the earth. I’m sure you see the obvious problem here. You’re picking and choosing when four corners is literal and when it’s not. If it fits your...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    Do you also believe the land of Israel was a square?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Is there a new man in you? Are you born again? Are you one flesh with Christ? Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Eph...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    Do you take this verse as written? Ezekiel 7:2 says the end has come "upon the four corners of the land" — the land of Israel. Was Israel a square? Nobody thinks so. It means the whole land, every direction. That's what the phrase has always meant. We still talk this way — the four corners of...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    The new man exists. By Paul's own law, that fruit is only legitimate inside the marriage. So either the believer is already married to Christ, or Jesus committed adultery. There's no third option.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I went back and read it again, and I'm glad you see it. But this is only one of many verses that get misunderstood — and each misunderstanding builds on the last until the truth is buried completely.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    You’re missing the point David. It can not be incorrect. The disciples are dead and in heaven now. It’s impossible that Jesus could “come again” to them, they’re no longer in this realm.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I’m not saying Jesus prepared the place while he was in hell, the place was prepared the moment Jesus died on the cross. When Jesus said I go to prepare a place for the he’s saying he’s going to the cross to pay the price for us. The only reason Old Testament saints didn’t go to heaven is...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    This part isn’t debatable, it’s in the text. Jesus said he would come again to receive YOU (disciples), not people 2000 years in the future. There is no way anyone can reason that this “come again” is not Jesus coming at the resurrection.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Commentaries are some man’s opinion on the Bible and from my experience with them, most of them are intentionally written to mislead people from the truth. God never told us to “rightly divide” commentaries. Read your Bible and never ever let some other man tell you what the Bible says.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Why are you mentioning ascending into heaven? Those verses don’t say anything about Jesus ascending into heaven.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    When Jesus said "I will come again, and receive you unto myself," He was speaking to the eleven men in that room. And He did come again to them — at the resurrection. And the Bible clearly says we have a body available in heaven right now. 2 Corinthians 5:1 — "For we know that if our earthly...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I don’t think so. The marriage supper is where the brides are chosen according to the parable of the wedding feast.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    @CrowCross and @Davidpt Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. These...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    No, I'm not including you in them, I don't consider you part of the elite.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    David did you not start this by saying "You just committed a very serious sin before God." And I asked you to check yourself before you accuse me, and you consider that anti-Christian. One of the many reasons flat earthers have 0 credibility with the rest of the world.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I think this is a situation where you should first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I've come to understand that people can use the Bible to prove almost anything they want, and once they've done it, there's little chance anyone will talk them out of it. My problem with flat-earth Christians is that the evidence they use to "prove" it isn't proof at all. And yes, I agree —...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    How do you know flat earth isn’t just another lie? Surely you realize the elite pieces of garbage put flat earth out to divide people even further.