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Yawn. Go harass someone else.

Exactly. My point to "the light " is that he says Jesus comes in power and great glory during the 7 yr trib and is here during the last year of the trib. So all his doctrine has to be backed up. As Jesus comes after the 7 yr trib in actual power and great glory..on the white horses. I pivot...

I am happy with either one. Apostasy would be literally " from standing" "From the faith is added...and not there literally, but instead most agree it is IMPLIED..BUT NOT THE LITERAL. SO either way, the rapture is pretrib. Literal should be the go to. But it interferes with mans natural mind...

Rev 6 is LOOKING FORWARD TO REV 19, the second coming.

Like I said The 2nd coming is on white horses IN POWER AND GLORY. Rev 19. That is the ONLY coming in power and glory. The ONLY ONE. Go back and fix that. That one thing is overwhelming.

No bible huh? Sad

Wooopie. He speaks!!!! ...and nothing constructive!!!!!

Since we KNOW the bride of Christ is believers, we also know it cannot be a building.

Since Jesus taught a pretrib rapture, your entire argument is moot.

I TOTALLY AGREE there is one new man in Christ. Never have I thought otherwise. Never have and never will. So you hit a dead end there. Let me reiterate...There is one new man in Christ for all who are born again. No doubt about it.

Like shooting ducks in a barrel. Can one of you post a postrib rapture verse? One verse? One pointing to a postrib rapture? One indirectly pointing to a postrib rapture? Crickets.

Tough job. Postribbers in here with no bible trying futility to defend their non biblical doctrine. Oh wait...that would be logical. Nevermind.

Ok. You are wrong again. Nothing burger post.

Nothing to do with anything. All personal and lame. Get a bible.

All rapture setting are pretrib. Jesus taught lot was removed pretrib. Postribbers would reverse that to " lot removed postrib" Noah was gathered into the ark pretrib/preflood. "Ark" is a type of heaven. Postribbers, I assume, need Noah gathered postflood. The rapture is the gathering of the...

Yes. Plus we know that the AC kicks off the 7 yr trib. We know that. He, THE AC, Arrives with a bow in his hand. Bow, represents covenant. ( the bow in the sky from the flood, symbolizes covenant...God using a bow as a representative) We know this. We know from Daniel the trib is 7 yrs. We know...

Jesus said the rapture will be pretrib All rapture verses are pretrib. So we do know that much. Unless you can prove Jesus is wrong.

The ac inaugurates the AOD in the MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. MIDDLE OF 7 YEARS. That leaves 3.5 years AFTER THE HARVEST OF JEWS in revelation 14. The wrath part is 3.5 years and commences in Rev 15.

Edit..nevermind brightflame actually does believe that made up mess. .....maybe too embarrassed to admit it.

There is nothing there for you to jump to that conclusion. Junk the bible, and all sorts of garbage emerges to replace it. This is one of the worst concepts I have ever encountered. Appalling what you guys manufacture