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While this word for "heavens" can mean space, in this instance I believe it is talking about the sky which is also a valid definition.

Sorry, but that's not talking about planets, it's talking about God!

Rev. 3:10, "Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth." (NIV). Sincere christians who hold to the pre-tribulation rapture theory often cite this verse, among...

One must not over emphasize a word like "church" and ignore all the other adjectives in the bible that describes us. Take the word saints. Here are some interesting facts. This word is used in the much larger section of the bible called the OT only 35 times, while in the much shorter NT it is...

No such thing, whomever you consider "tribulation" saints are in fact the still here church. Rev. 7:14 is a picture of the rapture, bro. The seals are not part of anyone's wrath any more than the a-bomb, ww1, ww2, korea, Vietnam, etc. were.

What the heck are you talking about??? If you're speaking about what I said about Daniel than just because a vision is in an apocalyptic style does NOT mean it can't also be literal truth. You have to compare scripture w/ scripture and Daniel passes the test of prophecy.

FYI, the post was explaining why I believe Revelation is prophetic NOT Apocalyptic.

Apparently, you didn't read the whole post.

That's a good one, brakelite.

The purpose of this study is to determine if the Book of Revelation should be considered prophecy or apocalyptic literature. Although apocalyptical is a type of prophecy, not all prophecy is apocalyptical (Apl). What’s the difference you may ask? Here’s what I have learned. While the word...

Hi Naomi, Seeing as how our differences mainly lie on our definition of Rev. I created another post in the eschatology form titled, Prophecy vs. Apocalyptic to answer this statement.

Two horns, one beast, the two combined into one: Medo/Persia. From a non-Christian World History site, Socratic.org. - " Cyrus the Great was a Persian King, Cyrus created an alliance with Darius King of the Medes to create the Persian Media Empire. Together this alliance conquered the Babylonian...

Hi Naomi, I’d like to take the opportunity to go over your outline of end-time events. Hopefully, by the time I’m done I will have eliminated what you consider: “Back to the idea of Christ 'defeating death' at his return, the Achilles heel on the earthly Millennial issue.” Let’s break down 1...

Ecclesiastes 4:9-12 : "Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm...

Have you ever had God tell you something you really didn’t want to hear? As I was sitting in church last Sunday listening to the sermon, the pastor mentioned a verse in Gal. 5. I turned there and was reading the verses before and after to get the context and I was struck by one word that seemed...

Actually, many schools already teach about the bible. One I know of is called "the bible as literature." Taught by non-christians, they tear the holiness of the bible to pieces. As a christian, I do not support bible education in the public classroom. That is what churches are for. It's not...

Just what is it you find wrong in any of these. He is following the will of the people who voted him in. So, yes, the above is what I did vote for.

The truth of the rapture is in scripture but apparently you want to ignore it. The rapture is one thing and one thing only, the church meeting the Lord in the air and that is scriptural truth. The only thing you are doing is calling God a liar.

Yes, they were Hebrews, but spiritually already on the way to being the first CHRISTIANS and the founding fathers of the church and that is how Jesus is replying. The church was established back in Matt. 10. Yes, there are prophetical things that will happen in Israel, most of them quite bad...

I would agree with you if everything was concentrated in Israel or if all of Israel were christian but they are not. Nations, kingdoms, the world are all there but Judea isn't referred to until vs. 15. Who else is spreading the gospel to all the world but the church?