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  1. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, Whom He appointed the heir of all things, through Whom also He created the world." (Hebrews 1:1-2). As we all know, this was written over two thousand...
  2. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    And we have tribulation now, in this life, just as Jesus said we would in John 16:33... "I have said these things to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world." The time of tribulation is not yet to come, it is now...
  3. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Not so much, no. The record is clear. And I'm far from the only one who has, um... endured you. Grace and peace to you.
  4. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Agree. Absolutely. This is why we are called His elect. I don't believe anything God does is random, but it can sure look like that to us. Foreknowledge... so, yes, as Paul says in Romans 8, "those whom He foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that He...
  5. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Far, far, FAR more than you, We are sinners after all, and human grace certainly falls short of God's. But still, any at all would have been far more than you. Buddy. Grace and peace to you.
  6. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Hmmm, I haven't been following yours and SI's conversation, but I'm sure it's been torturous... I'm sorry you've had to endure that; it always is that way when... "conversing" <chuckles> ...with SI, just because he is who he is... <smile> I mean there's just no grace there, which makes you...
  7. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Ohhhh. Not about me, bunny. That's all you, bunny. Yes, I did mean bunny. LOL!
  8. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes, you be the best you can be. However... limited... that is. BHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
  9. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Right, black is white, and white is black. Yes, you live in opposite world, where logic, as ably shown in your last post, is the polar opposite of logic... anti-... or alt-logic, as it were. Yeah I make it a point to avoid such "logic." Again your admisstion that you know nothing. So it...
  10. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I have no problem with you thinking that. So me saying you know nothing is really me admitting I know nothing. LOL! I mean that does explain so much about how you "think"... Grace and peace
  11. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Oh, well then you know nothing, too. Hm. Grace and peace.
  12. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Welllllllllllll, then maybe you don’t have much sense. <chuckles> Grace and peace to you.
  13. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Romans 14:10-12 ~ “…we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, ‘As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.’ So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.” <chuckles> Those who are still alive at the time...
  14. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Okay, well no, I don't see anybody really being "transported" anywhere. Hmmm... a "transformation/change of their bodies" for believers, then? Because that's... a little scary, too... <chuckles> Grace and peace.
  15. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    We would all say that, Ronald. <smile> Disagree. <smile> Hmmm... I understand... <smile> Grace and peace to you.
  16. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Hmmm... I think what I would say to this is... Well, my answer, depending on what is really meant by 'figurative,' and 'dissolving,' and 'burning up,' is... yes... and/or no. <smile> Hmmm, okay... <smile> Yes, 'but'... <chuckles> That seems strange... I mean Jesus is clear about that in...
  17. PinSeeker

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    God is the consuming fire. Regarding the unrepentant, He will "destroy" in the sense of complete devastation and ruination, the revocation and permanent loss of any hope of redemption. They will not enter into the New Heaven and New Earth; they will depart, having been resurrected to God's...