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  1. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    rebuilder 454 said: "There is neither male nor female..." Cue sarcasm Therefore only eunuchs and confused women populate the church because there are no more men and women, but gender neutral humanoids. There... we now have the complete one dimensional error of taking replacement theology...
  2. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    ....and yet Paul called himself a Jew. Called the unredeemed Jew his brethren Said he was a Pharisee... (ahem, a Jew) Then you go on to correctly say we are all one in Christ. ..as if that voids what Paul declared????? HUH???? Oh wait... I get it!!! We need that "no more Jews" dynamic for...
  3. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Really? Show me Noahs 4 horsemen, or the mark of the AC, or the AC himself, or the flying scorpions, or worldwide mark of the beast, or the planet half destroyed BEFORE NOAH entered the ark. Your model is caput.
  4. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    the only place we see believers in the (trib,or great trib or whatever you modern students call the 7 yr trib), is the Jews, and those left behind that are martyred right away by the ac. But we see the JEWS ushered away to safety...NOT THE CHURCH. You have to assume in your model that it is NOT...
  5. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Wow because you misplace the fact the 144k are ethnic Jews, you got the entire dynamic all messed up. You start ok by saying we can not be first fruits, then hit a dilemma of the 144k BELIEVERS . So your remedy is to make them FIRST FRUITS, of "somethingorother". Nope. Jesus is the first...
  6. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Nope. There has never been the events of the GT or Trib or whatever modern students the call the 7 yr period.
  7. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The ONLY TRACTION of that is to assume the church goes through the trib. It is vivid and obvious the woman is the Jews or Israel. It is explained in romans that we came out of Israel. ...also clear as day that Jesus came out of the Jews. We did not birth Jesus, He birthed us.
  8. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Where does Noah, or Lot fit ANYTHING but a prejudgement gathering????
  9. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The PREFLOOD analogy you reject is the analogy Jesus used. I am only saying what the bible says. I am REPEATING exactly what the bible says and AGREE with Jesus that the rapture or "preflood noah and world" setting is exactly what it says. Normal life,then judgement.
  10. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Nope "Power and great glory" The bible says the mid trib gathering of rev 14 is By Jesus SITTING on a cloud HOLDING A SICKLE. Your model is flawed in that you need the sitting on a cloud transposed into Power and great glory , which is rev 19. The innumerable number is not rev 14. You simply...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    noah over a mile into the sky DURING THE FLOOD. Then RETURNS back to earth post flood. Got to love it, enjoy it, and the favor of celebrating Gods word. " let my word be confirmed by 2 or 3 witnesses.
  12. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Uh, God sent the flood that carried noah high into the sky. Not the devil. Noah was gathered into the sky as the bible educates us DURING THE FLOOD.
  13. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    "There is neither male nor female..." Cue sarcasm Therefore only eunuchs and confused women populate the church because there are no more men and women, but gender neutral humanoids. There... we now have the complete one dimensional error of taking replacement theology pillars to there logical...
  14. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Never said or implied anything about or from Daniel. You invoked that over the dynamics of revelation. You introduced it. I never said or implied anything of Daniel. You need that hyper transposing for some reason.
  15. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Then just pretend there is no book of rev. I cant really help you
  16. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No We can all see the end time events have not happened. Stop acting like they have
  17. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Pot<> kettle big time. How ironic you revert to the low ground in insults and mocking, then point to others.... SMH
  18. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Try revelation on. Maybe that will help. It is there. Maybe get an eraser?
  19. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    where were the fling scorpions? And the mark of the beast? Where is no buying or selling worldwide w/out the mark. I will wait.
  20. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Your position is " no such thing as a Jew" I blew a hole in it. You redirected