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  1. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    the innumerable number before the throne is part of main harvest. Harvest has 4 parts FF Main Corners Gleaners That is one harvest . The 144k is the other rapture. They are the fruit harvest. That is the Jewish harvest The 144k are FF JEWISH harvest. The fact they are FF ethnic Jews means main...
  2. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No. That is all your transposing of it. Jesus uses lot and noah in the same setting. Exact same setting. There is NOTHING in noah of a postrib harvest. Not a thing. You transposed it using a "7 day before flood" dynamic. You made that into mid trib rapture. Jesus did not do that.
  3. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Rev 14 describes the setting and method of his coming. It is not in power and great glory. Show me power and great glory coming mid trib Not transposed. Just where it says that in rev 14
  4. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    IOW you transpose Rev 19 onto a mid trib 2nd coming
  5. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It says power and great glory. You have that coming prewrath. When in fact that is postwrath. We see the prewrath in rev 14. It is NOT power and great glory at all.
  6. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Name for me the correct name for the 7 yr period
  7. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It says they are TEMPORARILY confined
  8. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Name calling and belittlement?? Go fly a kite jr
  9. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Yes we all know it has wrath at the end and "trib is devil" vs "wrath is God" As if wrath can never have trib contained within it SMH
  10. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Does anyone have a name for the seven year gt???? Maybe the modern student is forbidden to call it something? Very tedious all the different applications. Plus yall all just assume the devastation and destruction by the four horsemen, unmatched in history, is a minor world wide speed bump and...
  11. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    show me where he comes in power and great glory prewrath
  12. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No Noah and lot are both pretrib or prejudgement. We know this because each one has the exact same component of "one taken, one left...and "watch and pray" ...and BTW, your interpretaion has Jesus coming prewrath in power and great glory and. Yet descrined in wrath Which would place his coming...
  13. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You quoted rev 6 :12,13 Keep reading. That timeframe says " the wrath of the lamb." The context you left out, is after the 7 yr gt. Mat 24 has 2 comings. One is pretrib. The other is post flood or post trib post gt post wrath All those " posts" are post 7 yr gt. The only " prewrath" ( mid trib)...
  14. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    uh, no. When he comes as a conquering king he is not in the form of the lamb of God. Same with your assertion. It is not EVERYTIME we transpose israel as the church. IOW you are partially correct, but take the dynamic into a falsehood.
  15. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Several problems with a mid trib rapture You leave out that all rapture verses are pretrib and normal life , peacetime, and commerce. Your timeframe does not fit that. Also, Jesus said he comes after the tribulation in power and great glory. That can only be rev 19 where he returns posttrib or...
  16. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    paul said it. I only reported what was there. The POINT is that he established there are Jews and he is one of them. He called the unredeemed Jews his brethren. You cant erase it.
  17. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    yes gt or the gt. Same thing
  18. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There is no broken up time frame when Jesus used noah and lot. Those JUDGEMENTS were single. Jesus used THOSE examples for the rapture. In your interpretation, you would need some kind of period BEFORE the judgement of lesser judgement as you are asserting. But the major dilemma you have is the...
  19. rebuilder 454

    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    There is a 7 year period It is the great tribulation .that is WHY it the 7 yr gt is shortened for the Jew. "Those days", the 7 yr gt, are shortened. We see it broken up in 2 sections. Wrath ALWAYS has tribulation. ALWAYS. 7 yr gt. The 4 Horsemen are released from heaven and kick off the gt. The...