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"Before the flood" is so easy and plain to grasp that a kindergartner can understand it. You guys are in a big struggle over a no brainer. Then go on to point at others as defective complete with backslaps for a show. Just plain rediculous.

Yes i see your discorse on that word. The Question is, find two scriptures with the word tribulation? Are you serious? You think you proved something??????

...and in mat 24 which you again omitted, and always will, Jesus said the setting of before the flood is the time frame of the rapture. One taken, one left behind. Always omit. It is your only hope to promote your theory.

I am glad that I can just read it and let those words be true. I don't need "after" to mean anything but "after" in mat 24 I don't need "before" to mean anything but "before" in Matthew 24

When Jews become Christians they become Messianic Jews . they don't stop being Jews, they're saved they're one new man they're in the body of Christ. they're no more important than any believer as Paul pointed out ,but they are still Jews as Paul called himself one. in the same thinking...

When Jews become Christians they become Messianic Jews . they don't stop being Jews, they're saved they're one new man they're in the body of Christ. they're no more important than any believer as Paul pointed out ,but they are still Jews as Paul called himself one. in the same thinking...

You know, when you guys omit components you can only get a partial picture. They are firstfruit JEWS. None of you understand first fruits. Concerning the church, Jesus is the firstfruits along with the patriarchs. Concerning the Jewish harvest DURING THE TRIB, the 144k are first fruits. It is...

They are believers. Nobody is disputing that All believers become one new man in Christ. We all know that. Messianic Jews are christians first, ethnicity second, third or fourth. We all know that.

lol We all know that. Nobody is disputing any of it

more generalities. No verses. In fact nothing of the bible in your posts.

Paul said "to the Jew first, and also to the greek". Factor in the ethnic Jewish dynamic.

Just keep on omitting "Before the Flood", and the Gathering in Revelation 14 during the tribulation and you'll be okay

The 144k do. The others will be converted as they see him on the cloud maybe? It is always a remnant. It is the work of the Holy Spirit that brings men to Christ

What about the great trib are you looking for.??? I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND what is going on with those smoking gun talking points that omitters use to void verses. It is you and him that needs to show me what you guys are hoping to white out using THOSE DEFINITIONS. Show me ANY trib, wtath, great...

We know for a fact the Jews, you know the ones that supposedly do not exist, are WAITING on the messiah. They just do not know he is Jesus. How ironic to discuss that dynamic with people that assert falsely there are no Jews left.

There is nothing anyone can bring to the table that I can not address. Bring it.

I clicked on it. Nothing happens What is it? Maybe copy and paste it.

You thinking I am replacement theology????? I am opposite of that

You threw out numbers. I have no idea where you got them. You invoked the patriarchs ???? Verses????