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My position is a global flood. And here is something some probably never think about. Dinosaurs. Well they obviously lived and existed at some point. They obviously no longer exist. Could it be that it was the flood that caused them to go extinct? As in, Noah never boarded any of these upon the...

I'm not arguing that God does not destroy the lost. I'm arguing that He doesn't need to engulf the entire planet in literal fire in order to do so. It contradicts what He said and meant in Genesis 9:15. Even if I took Revelation 20:9 to be meaning in the end of this age the same way you and...

Per my view of things, since none of the following, meaning what I submitted per Luke 19 below, can possibly be meaning after the time of the great white throne judgment, it then requires there has to be a habitable earth still existing in order to fulfill these things post Christ's bodily...

I have no clue from what you submitted here as to how you interpret all this fire imagery. Just because it contains fire imagery, it doesn't necessarily mean literal fire is meant. Therefore, you need to be clearer here. Are you one of these Amils that don't believe what God said in Genesis...

Let me be clear here. By Amil I'm not meaning every single Amil. I'm only meaning Amils falsely teaching these things, that God is literally going to engulf the entire planet in fire the same same way He literally engulfed the entire planet in water during Noah's flood. I fully agree with Amil...

You make some very good points here. Especially when you made this point and similar points---"Why don't you mention scriptures talking about Satan being bound so that he is unable to go about as "the prince of the power of the air who works in the sons of disobedience", deceiving the nations...

Initially it's not my intention to dispute anything in the OP, though that could change, depending whether or not you have convincing answers for any questions that might be raised. Therefore, in light of the OP, how do you propose one should interpret a passage such as the following? Jeremiah...

You, of all ppl, should not be the judge of anything here. You simply don't know what you are talking about a lot of the time. The fact the way you interpret the 70 weeks in Daniel 9 undoubtedly proves that 100%. It is beyond absurd that if Daniel 7:9-11 is paralleling Revelation 20:11-15...

To add to post #247 since it was already lengthy as is, there is this as well, in order for me to be fair about things here. Me: Some argue that verse 12 is simply parenthetical, that it's not meant to be taken to be meaning when verse 11 is meaning. Is that a valid and reasonable argument if...

I submitted the following to Chatgpt to get it's unbiased opinion. Whether one likes Chatgpt or not, at least in can reason things in a coherent manner. ------------------------ me: Daniel 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as...

Allow me to give you a glimpse into my mindset in regards to verses 9-12. Initially I'm already fully aware that many interpreters take verses 9-11 to be involving Revelation 20:11-15. I then start questioning that. For one, zero mention of any lost humans also being given to the burning flame...

Of course it ultimately means that. I do not disagree, yet how does anything you submitted in this post address and answer the questions I specifically asked? I am specifically asking about the coming on the clouds of heaven meant in verse 13. A coming from where to where, since a coming would...

He is a Preterist who likely thinks the beast somehow was destroyed 2000 years ago. And if so, lol, you are agreeing with something you don't even agree with(thus the reason for the lol since it comes across as funny to agree with something one doesn't even agree with), since you don't agree...

That's fine if you want to charge me with committing eisegesis in this case. But just make sure you have room to talk and that you don't have a mote in your own eye at the time. The following should satisfy whether you might have room to talk or not in this case, depending on how you answer...

Are you two even on the same page? I'm pretty sure @Truth7t7 is meaning yep in regards to post #3 not post #1. At least be fair to @Truth7t7 if nothing else. Maybe the misunderstanding began with your post in post #4 since you didn't quote who you were addressing at the time? Which may have...

I'm Premil not Amil and I have already chimed in. '. hoping ... holding their breath, not wantingt commit'---does not even remotely describe me. How could it when I already know good and well that the rapture is after great tribulation, and that no one except the Father knows the day or hour of...

What about all the lives he has damaged? Meaning if it is true that some of his followers sold their cars, trucks, homes, everything, in anticipation of this rapture? At least that is what I heard has been happening in some extreme cases. Don't know whether it's true or not.

Why did you include @Truth7t7? He's neither a Pretribber nor a Premil, not even remotely. He is a Post tribber and Amil just like you are.

Equally a literal 70 weeks happening in the final days of this age is " a fictional fairy tale found no place in scripture". Therefore, maybe you have no room to talk and don't qualify as someone telling us what is a fairy tale since you can't even remotely discern that a literal 70 weeks taking...

Not 10 horns on all 7 heads, only on one head. Keeping in mind that the book of Revelation reveals that the beast has 7 heads. Which is also shown in Daniel 7. Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from...