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The point is, the bride of Christ only descends out of heaven 1 time and that Revelation 19:11 already has the bride of Christ descending out of heaven. How does the bride of Christ then descend out of heaven yet again at a later time? It makes no sense. Are Amils arguing that the bride of...

Which would then seem to mean you think Revelation 19:11-21 takes place after the GWTJ rather than prior to. That based on the following in regards to what the logic would have to be. Your view is confusing. There is still Revelation 19:11-21 to deal with after that of verse 7. How can any of...

Revelation 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband...

IOW, apparently, in your mind it not reasonable that any prophets ever echoed what earlier prophets have said? Speaking of Zechariah. Matthew 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was...

----------------------------------- "4:04 AM Thursday, October 9, 2025 (GMT+13) Time in Samoa Therefore Joshua's fallback to the Old Julian Calendar date for his prediction has expired. We can now convict him of a false prophecy." -------------------------------------------------------------...

I have no idea who you are applying these things to, to me or to someone else?

Zechariah 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain . Deuteronomy 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I...

Why aren't you dealing with verse 17 as well? Is that not meaning any of those in verse 16 left of the nations which came against Jerusalem? Verse 17 indicates that after verse 12 was fulfilled first, those remaining of the nations are commanded to come up year to year, which, BTW, is...

The beast is not working alone. The beast has a partner, so to speak. Meaning the 2nd beast in Revelation 13, the false prophet. Therefore, if Nero is meant as the beast in question, the verses below would need to be understood in the following manner. It is then a question of, does that fit to...

One thing I noticed, and you likely did to, he neglected to show how verses 16-21 fit his interpretation of the first 12 verses he brought up. He didn't even mention verses 16-21 whatsoever and one has to wonder why not? Does he agree or disagree that verses 16-21 are meaning after verse 12 is...

Don't know why it would or should be? Per my view it does not mean one specific literal day. Per my view it is involving an era of time after great tribulation involving the vials of wrath. The ones worshiping the beast during it's 42 month reign that precedes the 2nd coming in the end of...

Doesn't the text tell us why the days are shortened? Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Who should we take the elect to mean in this context? It is for the elect's sake these days...

What tribulation do you see happening to unbelievers per Matthew 24 prior to the fulfillment of verse 29? The only tribulation mentioned just prior to that verse is what's recorded in verses 15-26. Some take those verses to be involving the first century and 70 AD. I disagree. I take those...

What is the 3rd woe? The 7th trumpet, correct? Except some interpreters disagree that the 7th trumpet is after great tribulation. Some interpreters have the 7th trumpet meaning the middle of Daniel's 70th week. Which would mean per that view, the 7th trumpet leads to the beginning of great...

I have noted in the past both Pretribbers and Preterists applying 1 Thessalonians 5:3, for example, to that of the beginning of great tribulation. If Preterists are applying 1 Thessalonians 5:3 to that of the first century involving 70 AD, this means they are obviously applying great...

While I do agree with you here, that doesn't necessarily mean I might agree with you in the manner this will be accomplished. IOW, if your view is that the entire planet is engulfed in literal fire, thus burning to death infants, children, adults, plus the entire plant and animal kingdom, the...

Initially, for decades even, my position was that the entire 70th week is future. I have since changed my position and my position is this now, only the 2nd half of the 70th week is still future--meaning after this part---and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation...

I'm not arguing against what you submitted. I fully agree with you. Except I don't take it to be involving a literal temple, in the event you do. I'm arguing against the idea that great tribulation begins with the DOTL, that great tribulation involves the DOTL. No it doesn't, and the OP clearly...

DOTL = day of the Lord. Both Pretribbers and Preterists, and anyone else doing what they are wrongly doing, need to start paying closer attention to details and quit twisting the texts involved in order to get the DOTL to fit where it doesn't remotely fit. The DOTL does not fit at the...

Here is something that just crossed my mind. One gets married and sets out to start a family, thus impregnates his wife. 6 months into her pregnancy Christ returns. What then happens to the unborn child? Most Christians are against abortions. What about Christ? Is Christ for abortions or...