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  1. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Your complaint, based on your assumption that "faith alone" is true, is duly noted. Irrespectively, the Scripture stands : the man who does not WALK in truth/Spirit is rejected, his faith is forgotten, and he has to pay his debts by being tormented, revealing the aspect of God's character of...
  2. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, you did... Not sure why you would try to deny you said I was disobedient, since it is all written down, and I can pull the reference.
  3. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, you objected to my citing "whoever doesn't work doesn't eat" on the basis that it had been written down. Here is where you said it: Moving on to your next objection... Yeah, there is a difference between oral tradition and Scripture--Paul's oral tradition "whoever doesn't work doesn't...
  4. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Who says oral tradition can't ever be written, and written can't be ever be spoken? You regularly speak the written Word of God, and we can find what you call oral tradition written down. LOL Again, Paul revisited, in writing, an oral tradition he had while he was with them--"whoever doesn't...
  5. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, you're saying we have to submit to your Church in all matters, and that we are "disobedient" if not--that's what you told me--but disobedience is rebellion, and rebellion is unrighteousness, and "the unrighteous do not inherit God's Kingdom", so maybe you were saying something you didn't...
  6. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Don't you contend that it was Jesus (God) speaking to Israel--but you think that applied ONLY to the Torah, but it's OK for you to add and remove from Jesus's Words today? Are you admitting you're doing that? Again, when Paul wrote the Roman Church, he didn't say "OBEY ME!", he used Scripture...
  7. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Clearly, the contrast is between supernatural works and righteousness--ie, it is possible to do miracles, but not love (love fulfills the righteous requirement of the Law (Ro 8:4, 13:8-10)), just as Paul says, "if I have faith to move all mountains, but I have not love, I am nothing." (1 Co...
  8. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    When you say "all of those outside our Church are hellbound--and we don't have to defend anything we say using Scripture or reason, you just have to dumbly follow", that's "cutthroat".
  9. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, Paul's tradition, as explained, seems to just be Scripture-based practical halachot--the "tradition" he revisits in the epistle to the Thessalonians is "whoever does not work does not eat", and this is traceable to Genesis 3, where God says "by the sweat of your brow you will eat food"...
  10. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Well, actually, Jesus is explicit, so "do not add or remove" (Deut 4:2) : He said many would come to Him, and say "Lord, Lord", and try to claim rightness with Him due to supernatural acts they had done, but He will say "No, you do not practice righteousness." So, how can we do God's will for...
  11. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    It's just a commentary on what you said--you claimed I thought Christianity was "cut throat", and I remarked that, rather, you all are the ones who are rather "cut throat".
  12. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, Paul explains one of his oral traditions to the Thessalonians : "you know our tradition when we were with you was anyone who didn't work didn't eat". This is Genesis 3, where God says, "From the sweat of your brow, you will eat food" : Paul's "traditions" are similar, then, to the Jews'...
  13. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Yeah, and I already know God--and I'm not relying on doing miracles or wonders. Jesus's issue, here, is they are not righteous, or seeking after righteousness--they think service to God for God's glory, or glorifying God, or Christianity, consists in doing miracles and other supernatural acts...
  14. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    1. Yes, you said to obey your Church, and you basically represent your Church, so you're saying to submit to your word, because it is the word of your Church. 2. I agree--but you guys really are cut throat (perhaps not as much after Vatican II), whereas we've been granting that there are actual...
  15. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    In the Epistle to the Romans, for instance, Paul didn't tell the Roman Jewish believers "OBEY WHAT I TELL YOU!", he reasoned with them--he preempted their Jewish, Scripture-based objections to his Gospel, and answered those arguments using Scripture and reason. Jesus did the same--He engaged...
  16. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Peter unknowingly taught and lived contrary to the ultimate reality / truth of the Gospel--as Paul says, "My conscience is clear, but I am not thereby acquitted, for it is the Lord [the Word of God] Who judges me." So, also, Peter's conscience was clear, and we see this dynamic permitted in...
  17. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    "Deepest sympathies"? As you say, "keep it up--you're letting everyone know what you're made of"! LOL! You're so obviously in the wrong, and you're uninterested in that fact--you care only about pretending you are right! Your behavior does not differ from the behavior of the Catholics you...
  18. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    If even Peter taught error (ie, he taught that only Jews could be saved, and that they all had to serve God by means of the Law--up until the corrective vision in Acts 10), who are you to think you have to be 100% correct about everything you assert just because you have the Holy Spirit? Humble...
  19. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Funny, no one on your side of the debate has bothered to "debunk" the claims; they just emptily object, like they do everything else, completely impotent to prove anything about anything.
  20. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Avail yourself of the information in the video presentation before responding to it (Proverbs 18:13).