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Are you serious, that I didn't even understand what @Douggg meant per post # 41? What was there to not understand about it? He was crystal clear in that post. Actually, the post I made right after his, where at the time I hadn't even read post 41 yet, is basically making the same point he was...

Speaking for myself I have zero issues with there being a type and antitype in this case. Except Daniel 8, 12 is not the type, it is the antitype. The type, we determine that from Maccabees not the book of Daniel. Numerous clues in both ch 8 and 12 prove I have to be correct. Clues such as...

What do you know, a voice of reason. Something that is somewhat rare these days.

Revelation 10:1 ¶And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left...

Since your point in regards to the 7 thunders is apparently going over my head, let's try a different route. Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24...

Everyone already agrees that Christ preexisted, except for maybe JWs, I guess. Using your logic maybe Christ didn't even need to be born into the world to begin with since He doesn't even need to be born into the world first in order to fulfill any of these prophecies?

Do you then take it to mean that whatever the 7 thunders uttered, it will never be revealed ever? It will remain a mystery throughout eternity?

Guess what, Douggg? I already fully agree that A4E in not meant in verse 36. What I don't agree with is that verses 21-35 are meaning A4E while Daniel 8:9-14, 23-25, are meaning a future AC. What I do agree with, which contradicts your position, is that Daniel 8:9-14, 23-25, and Daniel 11:21-45...

Revelation 10:1 ¶And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left...

I fully agree. I do not dispute that, the fact that the text plainly says so. Now you need to show me where it says that in ch 11. Therefore, it is not a question of that Antiochus IV met his end in Persia. It was not time of the end. It is a question of where does it ever say that in ch. 11?

Other Poster: So IMO you are just chasing at the wind still trying to get ChatGPT to agree with your answers. ME: Your approach to how to use ChatGPT is not my approach. My approach involves formulating arguments rather than just asking it questions. You have to provide it some context first...

Your approach to how to use ChatGPT is not my approach. My approach involves formulating arguments rather than just asking it questions. You have to provide it some context first. You have to allow it the ability to reason through these things with you. I do not agree nor will ever agree that...

Douggg, pretty much all interpreters agree that the vile person meant in Daniel 11:21 is the same little horn person meant in Daniel 8:9-14, 23-25. Your interpretation contradicts that fact. Any interpretation that agrees that the vile person meant in Daniel 11:21 is the same little horn person...

how many years lapsed after Daniel did Antiochus 4 E come upon the scene? Based on the provided information, the time elapsed between Daniel's final recorded vision and the rise of Antiochus IV Epiphanes can be calculated as follows: Daniel's Last Recorded Vision: The Book of Daniel's last...

It basically boils down to this. Daniel 8:15 ¶And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. 16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel...

Part 7: Summary, Implications, and Call for Discussion Part 7: Summary, Implications, and Call for Discussion Here is a summary of the key takeaways: ✅ Daniel 11:21 introduces a "vile person" who remains the central figure all the way through verse 45 — there is no textual handoff to a new...

Part 6: The Vile Person and the Antichrist – New Testament Parallels Part 6: The Vile Person and the Antichrist — New Testament Parallels The figure introduced in Daniel 11:21 as the vile person, who continues through to his final destruction in verse 45, shares multiple traits with the New...

Bonus Post: Q&A Response to Common Objections FAQ / Response to Common Objections Q1: Isn't the "vile person" obviously Antiochus IV Epiphanes, since he came in by flatteries? A1: Antiochus did use deceit, but Daniel 11:21–45 describes far more than that. This figure exalts himself above...

Part 5: Summary and Prophetic Continuity The following table compares the key traits of the figure in Daniel 8, 11, and 12 and shows how they match a single end-time individual: TraitDaniel 8:23–25Daniel 11:21–45Daniel 12 Rises deceptivelyBy craft and dark sentencesObtains the kingdom by...

Part 4: Kingdom and Character of the End-Time King What Kingdom Is Taken in Daniel 11:21? Daniel 11:21 – "And in his estate shall stand up a vile person..." If verse 21 is describing the Antichrist (not Antiochus), then the "kingdom" he obtains is likely not the Seleucid throne but a future...