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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Per this interpretation you have one being blessed if they make it to 70 AD, as if there was anything blessed about 70 AD. Especially if one was an unbelieving Jew at the time still living in that region. Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and...
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    Four questions makes me a robot

    IMO, comparing what I did there with what you are doing in Daniel 12:11-12 in light of Daniel 12:13 is not a fair comparison. Clearly, the coming meant in Revelation 16:15 is meaning during the days of the vials. Obviously, none of the vials were poured out thousands of years earlier and that...
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    Four questions makes me a robot

    I just replied to one of @Douggg post. Maybe something I said per that post might address why A4E can't be meant? For one, in Daniel 8, 11, and 12, there is only one daily sacrifice that gets taken away. IOW, they are all referring to the same person, the same era of time. We have to factor...
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    Four questions makes me a robot

    In the book of Daniel, in verse 27 ch 9, the Hebrew word for sacrifice is 'zebach'. And as far as I can tell that is the only verse in Daniel where that Hebrew word is used. 'zebach' from 'zabach' (2076); properly, a slaughter, i.e. the flesh of an animal; by implication, a sacrifice (the...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The following is my view in a nutshell except I used ChatGPT to better express my view. That does not equal I get my theology from ChatGPT, lol. That equals that I'm using ChatGPT as a tool to better express my view. Huge difference. IOW, this post reflects my own theological position. I did...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Matthew 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    While I somewhat agree with you about some of this, the following undeniably proves that Luke 21:20-23 is pertaining to the first century leading up to 70 AD---and shall be led away captive into all nations(Luke 21:24). And here is why since it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure it...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Didn't see a need for starting a new thread since the folowing is on topic per this thread I had already started. My attempt(or at least one attempt thus far) at trying to combine some of Matthew 24 and Luke 21. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Hmmm---I just thought of something here in regards to what I initially said in the post of mine I am quoting above. Let's assume 2 scenarios. 1) the millennium precedes the 2nd coming 2) the millennium follows the 2nd coming First let's assume 1) is the correct view, 2) isn't. What would all...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Not one single person past or present, including both Amils and Premils, believes satan is cast into the LOF before the beginning of the millennium. Every single person past or present, including both Amils and Premils, believe satan is cast into the LOF after the millennium. Amil = the...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    Exactly! I couldn't agree more. When the little horn is given to the burning flame, the rest of the beasts, their lives are prolonged for a season and time. Obviously, Revelation 20:11-15 can't be meant here since no one's lives are going to be prolonged for a season and time at that point. The...
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    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics - see the evidence

    What about the way @WPM blatantly misrepresents all early Chiliasts by insisting they all have satan cast into the LOF prior to the beginning of the millennium rather than after the millennium? Unless you haven't noticed, Chiliasts placed the millennium after the 2nd coming not prior to the 2nd...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Per your interpretation how do you figure that makes sense, what you are proposing about verse 26 in light of verse 27 and how you, not me, tend to interpret verse 27? Daniel 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince...
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    Four questions makes me a robot

    I guess I can accept that A4E is a type for the the one meant in 2 Thessalonians 2:4. What I can't accept is that Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 is meaning A4E. I simply cannot accept that the angel lied to us in Daniel 12:4 by telling us that he had Daniel shut up the words, and seal the book...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Even if that means watching for something that is not even Biblical, a Pretrib rapture in this case, @Douggg view? Christ only comes back one time. An alleged Pretrib rapture does not equal that 'one time'. In the meantime while one is still watching for this Pretrib rapture Matthew 24:21 might...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Awhile back I submitted my view, below, to Chatgpt to get it'stake on what I am arguing and proposing. Here is what it provided. If nothing else, chatgpt makes my position a bit clearer, in the event some of it wasn't clear enough. -------------------------------- Me: In my view 2...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    What you should have said is this--SOME, THUS NOT ALL PREMILS, drool over modern-day Israel, waiting for red heifers and third temple blueprints—as if the Kingdom of God is built with bricks and animal sacrifices. But instead of that you want to paint this with a broad brush as if that is what...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    I just can't get on this A4E is in the book of Daniel page. The days of A4E have no connection with the verses that surround it. Daniel 11, for instance. Which BTW, the following is also echoed in Daniel 12. There wasn't anyone during the A4E days being purged, and being made white. That is NT...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    I don't look at some of these things the way you do. I don't reason some of these things the way you do. Unlike you, the fact Preterists are clearly wrong about Mathew 24:30,31, 34, to name a few, I see that as a red flag. Why would I want to agree with Preterists who can't even discern what...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    That is exactly what it is pertaining to. And you would think that at least all Amils would agree with that. I even agree with that and I'm not even an Amil. Imagine that. Amils taking things literally when it's typically Premils doing that, and here I am, a Premil, and I'm not taking these...