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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You didn't understand my post #644. All the OC saints "under the altar" of the OC had died in faith believing of "the Promise to come". Rev. 6:9-11. Did you know that an "altar" is a place of Remembrance, as well as a place of sacrifice? Therefore Abraham, Moses and the many others of OC Israel...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    KJV Luke 3 5 Every valley shall be filled [in], and every mountain and hill shall be brought low [leveled]; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth; > In other words, in Christ there shall be equality of people before God. Both in their sinfulness and in...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    "Leave your history books in that section of the library... they have no purpose in understanding God's prophetic story." Lol....God's Prophetic story is Him foretelling the history of it, before it comes to pass. Edit: Does anyone here understand the factors of "type and anti-type" in...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    As a born again believer in Jesus, I do not follow Him according to the doctrines of Christian-Zionism. By the way, ever since Pentecost. "the remnant" of Jewish Israel, through their repentance and faith in Jesus, are being "grafted back" into the KoG every day, by converting to Christ. Edit...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    There is no future "little horn" to come. All of that which was prophesied about him, in the book of Daniel, was fulfilled through the man called Antiochus IV Epiphanes (170-164 BC.). Please study the historical account of his profane acts against the Jews and their temple in the book of 1...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Mal. 3:16-18 16 Then they [under the OC] that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name. (By the way, God the Father had no other option to...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Are you falling into the same bracket of church-ianity, thinking that the MANY saints that rose out of their graves UPON the moment of JESUS' DEATH on the cross, were NC saints??? KJV Mat. 27:50-55 Again, WHEN was the permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit GIVEN??? John 7:39
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    When you unpack what you just wrote, you will discover alot of imposed teaching by church-ianity upon you. For example: Ever since Jesus was "glorified" (John 7:39), no one now, ever receives the Gift of the Holy Spirit AFTER THEIR DEATH. It's always before death. Rom. 8:8-9.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Unfortunately, pharisaical church-ianity has everyone locked up into the belief that all of the book of Revelation is only about the future! Well,.... indeed it is,... but BEGINNING in the day of Jesus' ministry to us, while in his mortal flesh. Please take a good look at Mat. 27:50-54. There...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I sincerely believe that when Christians position themselves into this severe dichotomy for understanding, of how it is that "not all of Israel is Israel" and yet we also read that "all of Israel shall be saved", it is all due to the fact that neither of the christian positions are understanding...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    It simply means that even though the KoG was taken away from them, God still allows them to be grafted back into the KoG,....BUT ONLY by each individual person of Israel having faith in the Lord Jesus. They are not cast away from God's plan of salvation, but they are indeed outside the KoG, as...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    For the nation of Israel, since Christ's first appearance, they are now equal to any Gentile country/nation, such as Iran, Russia, China etc. People of Jewish heritage have no preeminscense over anyone else, just because they ONCE WERE the chosen people of God Might I remind you of Rom. 8:8-9...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    It's not about the KoG being restored back to Israel, but rather the reverse. Listen to  HOW the disciples asked Jesus the question: "wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?". In John 3:3-7, Jesus said that EACH of Israel could be restored back into the KoG by God the...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Surely you are meaning "born again" of the Holy Spirit Jews,... correct? Did you know that God the Father does not see who is a Jew or Gentile believer, who are born again by His Holy Spirit through faith in Christ? Edit: as for those Jews who are of the unsaved, having no faith in Jesus, they...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    If you will notice, Jesus could not answer "yes" or "no" to their question, but rather revealed that any decision for an event for kingdom restoration to Israel was entirely in the hands of the Father only. Therefore, we should NOT assume that such a proposal is even under consideration by God...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    "The closing chapter of Amos itself points beyond judgment to hope and restoration." Yes, but each showing through repentance towards God and having faith in Christ NOW, while each have breath of life, and not some futuristic man made mega moment of saving all of literal Israel in spite of...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    It appears that "the final nail in the coffin" came in the words of Jesus: Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation [of born again saints] bringing forth the fruits thereof.
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Again you are not listening to the correct wording as it was originally said in KJV Dan. 11:41 and 12:11. The scripture says: "The abomination that MAKETH [causes the temple to be] DESOLATE [to be destroyed and void of God]. Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute...
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    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Listen up, and listen correctly: 2 Cor. 5 20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21 For he hath made him TO BE SIN FOR US, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him...