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If you think that I am wrong then please show me Old Testament verses which tell of a resurrection to spirit bodies with a home in heaven, and to a role as priests and kings - something which sounds similar to the first resurrection. I don't think that is revealed in the Old Testament. Here...

It is referring to the general (second) resurrection, not the special (first) resurrection of the Church which had not yet been revealed. It's no more relevant than when was the last time that you read any part of the Bible. Just because you don't read all the Bible every day that doesn't mean...

:rolleyes: If you say so.

Those posts don't correct my unbelief in your interpretation of the Scriptures. The Scriptues you quoted in those posts say nothing about the resurrection, let alone who gets to have a part in the first resurrection. Those verses say that there will be a Great Tribulation, but the Israelites...

Indeed. But what is your point and its relevance to who will have a part in the first resurrection as opposed to the second resurrection? I don't see how that helps your argument. Your not referencing any Scripture to support that, but yes, Jesus' sacrifice provides salvation from death for...

An article written in 1916: TWO BANDS OF GOD'S HEROES HEBREWS 11:1--12:2. THE Bible puts faith before works, because no works can be acceptable to God unless inspired by faith. Thus it is written, "Without faith it is impossible to please God." The Bible brings to our attention two distinct...

To clarify, you wrote, in post #442: I (and Ronald) have been saying that nobody is resurrected in the first resurrection (which is what 1 Thess. 4:17 is referring to) except Christians, and that nobody could become a Christian until Jesus started his ministry, when he started baptizing through...

That's a mishmash of verses that you've come up with because of your Trinity bias. Just believing in God doesn't save you - all the Jews believed that, but they were under the Law which they could not keep, and none of them were saved. To be more precise (quoting an actual Bible verse), Romans...

Just believing that God was going to send a Messiah, a person anointed to save Israel and all mankind, does not make you a Christian and part of the Church (body of Christ). All the Jews believed that, but they didn't all become Christians. It's a complicated few verses! Who are the...

Everyone will be resurrected, "there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust" (Acts 24:15). But only those that have a part in the first resurrection will be changed to spirit beings and will have a home in heaven with Jesus. Only Christians have that calling - John 6...

1Th 4:16 - "... The dead in Christ will rise first". The dead in Christ are only those that have become Christians, and therefore are only those who have been baptised into Jesus' death ("Or don’t you know that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" Romans...

Good grief! Besides bad language and insults you're now being sexist. You are far from the kingdom of God at the moment. Men and women are equal in Christ - Galatians 3 (WEB): (26) For you are all children of God, through faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as were baptized into...

I said I wouldn't reply any more, but I'll just post once more before I stop and have my tea. :) Paul was not writing to "complete heathens". The clue is in the title of the book - he was writing to Israelites/Jews who were Christians - Hebrews. I can tell what point he was making, but it is...

If you just state that every verse of Scripture that I quote is corrupted and shouldn't be believed, then it is pointless continuing the discussion. Psalms 139:13-14 (WEB): (13) For you formed my inmost being. You knit me together in my mother’s womb. (14) I will give thanks to you, for I am...

So from where are you reading the uncorrupted words of God? That is not a quote. What is the verse reference? The only verse that I can find that comes anywhere near close to "fall down on the earth" is Jeremiah 51:47 (WEB) which says: (47) Therefore behold, the days come that I will...

Jesus saves us from the wages of sin, which is death. (Romans 6:23) It is clear what sin is; God makes it clear in His word. Sin is anything which causes upset, hurt, distress or sadness to another person. Sin is the opposite of love, and love is the opposite of sin. As Paul wrote, Romans...

Because I have read the whole of the Bible (and the Apocrypha) and I don't remember ever reading any of the things that you are claiming. Because I believe the Bible is the word of God and I believe the Apostle Paul when he wrote "All Scripture is inspired by God" (2Ti 3:16). I didn't claim...

Where in the Bible does God say that. Please give Bible refereneces; don't just claim that something is so without giving Biblical evidence to support your claim. Your English is confusing. By "not he made" do you mean "he did not make"? If so you are clearly not believing God. Please say...

Yes, I do find it to be ludicrous nonsense! That question has never entered my head. Why would it enter any sane person's head? Esau died thousands of years ago, so he couldn't possibly stop anything being placed on the Internet. You do realise that the Internet was only invented a few...

You're the one who has posted bizarre things such as "Adam never died", "the evil realm placed our souls in this pimped-Ape-body on this prison-planet", "Adam 'counseled Esau to go corrupt the scroll'", "'the two witnesses' in Revelation are "the 144K" as 'the house Ishral and house Judah' in...