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If it was required to believe this nonsense in order to be a Premil, I would abandon Premil in a heartbeat based on this alone. Thankfully one doesn't have to believe this nonsense in order to be Premil. I'm not going to lie. I'm not entirely certain how to interpret Ezekiel 40-48, but I am...

And so is some of the wording in Luke 17 and some of Matthew 24 intensely similar. For example. Luke 17:24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. 25 But first must he suffer...

What I don't get about some of these interpreters such as SI, does not Revelation 19 involve the 2nd coming? And the fact SI agrees it does, where then anywhere in Revelation 19 does it give the impression anyone is being burned to a crisp because the surface of the entire planet is literally...

What in the world do you then think Jesus could have possibly meant by---no, nor shall ever be---if not that it will be the greatest tribulation since the beginning of time, and that no tribulation in the future will be as great? You can't even discern the difference between tribulation and...

I argue that just because Matthew 24:16 and Luke 21:21 use almost identical language this doesn't necessarily mean they are the same event. You argue that it does mean they are the same event. Then I argue that because Luke 17:31 and Matthew 24:17 are using almost identical language this means...

Clearly, Luke 21:20 is pertaining to what eventually happened in 70 AD. But that doesn't mean so is Matthew 24:15-21. Like I already pointed out, Revelation 7.9 is involving great tribulation that can't be matched nor surpassed in greatness. And that Jesus said in Matthew 24:21, pertaining to...

Obviously, these things would have to be meaning in the literal sense for certain if these things are involving the first century. Which means you then encounter this problem at the time since the timing would be way before 70 AD ever arrives. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the...

I never said Revelation 18 had anything to do with those in Judea fleeing to the mountains. I only used Revelation 18 to prove that fleeing to somewhere is not meaning in the literal sense every single time. Which can then mean that maybe it's not meaning in the literal sense in Matthew 24:15-20...

This post here I can relate to. Sounds like we might be on the same page. Maybe. Yet it is not entirely clear to me what your position is concerning the holy place Jesus mentioned in Matthew 24:15. One thing that is clear to me, you don't take it to be involving a rebuilt temple in the future...

The way I look at it, if I'm the only person on the entire planet that has concluded something that no other person has concluded, my chances of being correct are zero. I at least have enough sense to realize that. But if others have concluded pretty much the same thing, even if they are not in...

You mean submit to all those false teacher leaders like I used to do in the 80s? Thanks, but no thanks. Not to mention, the churches in the 80s I used to attend were somewhat mega churches. Easy to get lost in the crowd and no one even acknowledging that you are there unless you come with a...

As to that, as a matter of fact I'm getting ready to do so here shortly. I'm not going to lie though, I had Chatgpt to try and help me flesh out some of my thoughts, in regards to that. And IMO, it did an excellent job. But I will do that later. In the meantime. The Discourse involves 2...

When Christ died and rose? Or in 70 AD when it was fully destroyed? There can only be one answer here. Why this matters is because of what Matthew 24:15, for one, records. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the...

Why should I take Commentators and Josephus, which is who I mentioned, being who God gave as my teachers, or anyone's teachers for that matter? I have had teachers before. I grew up as a Baptist and attended Baptist churches at the time. But Eschatology was not anything they were teaching. Or...

I can't make sense out of how Amils interpret some or all of Zechariah 14. Their interpretations don't even remotely resemble what the text is stating. How in the world can those that remain of the nations that came against Jerusalem possibly go up from year to year in a single day? Or how in...

I only use the animal kingdom as an example. That if you are correct that the entire planet is engulfed in flames, why then did God bother creating animals to begin with, and why did He bother preserving them during the flood, if in the end He just gets rid of the animal kingdom altogether? If...

Actually though, some Premils are literalists. I don't know how you can deny that if some Premils insist a literal 3rd temple will be built and what all that involves, not to mention, Ezekiel's temple during the millennium where animal sacrificing has resumed. The point being, you can't possibly...

Except you are twisting what he said and meant, and you know it. He clearly said it is not a 24 hour day. Appearently then, just like me, he too takes the last day to be involving an era a time that begins with the 2nd coming. For some reason you want to twist what he said and meant in order to...

Premils can't be reasoned with but Amils can? If you say so. I can't think of one thing, even things having zero to do with Premil, that you have ever agreed with me about. Meaning where I managed to change your mind about something. Maybe the reason I couldn't change your mind is because it is...

Can you expand on that some? I'm not grasping what you are meaning here? The text indicates one has to overcome first, then they are rewarded with having power over the nations. This likely is a stupid question to be asking you since you don't believe NOSAS is Biblical, but how can one be said...