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It doesn't matter how the Catholic Church interprets it to bolster their Church--what Christ says is clear, that He builds His Church upon Peter the rock. I don't need to play word games to try to get out of Catholicism's claims, I just read and believe what Christ says.

And you say that Israel is the bride, but the Church is not, right?

Wouldn't you agree, though, that God is preserving a remnant of the nation of Israel / circumcision by grace, according to Romans 11? So, what's the issue--why think Peter and Paul preach different Gospels when you agree Paul's Gospel of Grace is the means whereby God is preserving the remnant...

LOL Peter wasn't preaching "God is going to flood the earth, so you will have to build an Ark and God will save you through the Ark" (though that foreshadowed what God would do in the future--the message we believe about His Son), nor "God will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in...

The OP seems to assert that "Israel" is the bride? Am I understanding your view correctly?

The Scripture for my assertion is the Scripture we are discussing--it's just that you are, in order to hold your crumbling view together, refusing to see it for what it is saying ("lest I had run in vain" he went to consult with the Apostles to make sure his message was on point--and he says...

@Doug In fact, you already said Peter WAS part of the Church :

LOL That wasn't what Jesus was saying. Jesus says "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church, and I will give you [Peter] the keys..."--the subject never changes, it goes from "You are Peter [rock]" and then "on this rock [Peter] I will build My Church" and then "I will give you...

Right, the Scriptures were about Him. The Bronze Serpent was about Christ, in a way, but it wasn't in plain sight. It was hidden in ages past (Ro 16:25)--what is your response to that?

No, if they were right, I would be Catholic, but the doctrine of Mary as the New Eve is an error. I'm not saying they're not a valid Church--I believe people know God because He is merciful (Jer 31:34), not because they have perfect doctrine. I'm not saying they don't know God. I believe...

It does not follow from prominence or loss or prominence of this or that preacher that their messages differed--non-sequitur. You have to actually prove the claim.

Not at all--I'm saying that, in general, when God speaks to makind, it is good news (when Abraham is told that he will have offspring as numerous as the stars of the heavens, that was the good news to him; when Noah was told God would destroy the earth, but that he would be preserved through the...

Yes, and it is based on an error--Mary as New Eve.

So, if the bride of Christ is Israel, not the Church, why does Christ say He will build His Church upon Peter--making Peter both part of Christ's bride ("Israel"), and not part of Christ's bride ("the Church")?

Which is what? The Gospel was kept a mystery in the past (Ro 16:25), which was why none of the Apostles understood that he had to die and be raised--neither did anyone else in the past. The messages they believed were definitely God's Word, but the message about His Son dying and rising as a...

They were just but not perfected, meaning that they had not partaken, meaning they were not privy to Christ's death and resurrection. Hebrews 11 39And all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40because God had provided something better for us, so...

What does it mean to be David's seed reigning as Israel's King? That he's the Messiah. That's at least part of Peter's point. He also does a homily on "raise up your seed", because, obviously, God just meant that David would have a seed reigning from the throne, but Peter riffs on the word...

How so? Paul defines "righteousness apart from works" as "being forgiven" (Ro 4:6-8), and it is based upon this righteousness that we are justified (Ro 5:1). On the contrary, it is yourself who is baselessly seeing a mutual exclusivity between Paul and Peter.

Yes. "remission" there is the Greek word "ἄφεσιν", which means "forgiveness", so there's no issue with anything I said--ie, when Peter preached forgiveness of sins, it is the same message as Paul saying "justification", because justification is by righteousness, and the righteousness he preaches...

So? Israel is a nation--Peter was apparently mainly sent to Israel, Paul was sent to non-Israel nations. Thomas apparently went to India.