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I didn’t start either thread. No, the Scriptures were written to 1st century people, their meaning does change or grow. They meant what they meant to the 1st century people. It is up to the Christian to determine what that was and apply it accordingly OK, let me clarify, I gave the...

The holy Spirit fell on them, how does that prove they were already born again? According to Jesus, in order to be born again one must be borne of water and the Spirit. So, if they only had the Spirit but didn't have the water yet, how were they born again? In addition, there is the issue of...

Huband and wife isn't.

I have to agree on your position regarding the gifts. Here are the words of Origen from his writing "Against Celsus" Title : The Early Church Fathers: Ante-Nicene Fathers Volume 4 Chap. II. Celsus next proceeds to say, that the system of doctrine, viz., Judaism, upon which Christianity...

How did that make them born again?

Just once, I've been waiting since you began. What does "God" mean? By faith? So, you don't know then? I didn't asking you how you believe it. I asked you how do you know that what you have is God's word? Why wold I respond to proof texting? Random verse of Scripture pulled out of context do...

Why would one discuss a Scriptural issue without a Scriptural argument?

They're on Bible forum.org because I posted them there. This isn't the only forum I attend. However, you still have no argument from the Scriptures and all of he Ad hominems in the world isn't going to change that.

Then give your definition Well, let me ask you a question. How do you know that what you are reading is God's word? Still no argument against the evidence?

No it's not. Salvation is but a part of the gospel message. Read the four Gospels and see if you find Jesus preaching that He was going to the cross for them. His disciples didn't even know of the cross til right near the end. You will only find the phrase "Faith alone" one place in the Bible...

So, we get the ad Hominem from you also? What gets tiresome is the word games. I've asked you repeatedly for definitions and you didn't give them yet you expect people to be able to answer your questions. The fact of the matter is that you cannot present an argument against the evidence so you...

Why did the Pharisees want to kill Him? It was because after they heard His words "THEY" said that He was makning HImself equal with God. That's what you quoted, I quoted Jesus Himself. No, what this is, is a logical fallacy. It's an Ad hominem. Since you cannot refute the evidence that I...

Did you read the question? Not "who" God is. The question was, What does the word God mean? So apparently I'm not it the group.

I didn't ask the questions, I asked for the definition of God. People were making contradictory statements in their own posts. How can I discuss what God means if I don't know what someone means by God? Actually, what is orthodox today is irrelevant. I guess it would be if one believes that...

My friend, it is not I who was playing games. I had people randomly tossing out verses saying it means this or worse, not saying anything at all. Like I am supposed to know what they they are thinking. I stated that Jesus is God in the beginning and yet have had multiple posts where people said...

Not so, John's baptism was with water and Jesus' disciples baptized with water for 31/2 years before there was a baptism of the Spirit. However, we are shown how bpatism of the Spirit works, the Spirit fell on Jesus after He came out of the water of baptism.

As I said, Paul chose the words my friend. You can deny them if you choose, you can redefine them if you like. That doesn't change the Scriptures. The Greek word means to defend oneself or another, and Paul said don't do it. You have to answer to Christ for what you do with it. I didn't say...

I was speaking specifically to Aspen to get his understanding in order to answer his question.

The seal is intended to be broken. A scroll was marked with a seal to show that the contents were genuine. If one received a scroll and the seal was broken, it was possible that the scroll had been tampered with. The Whole idea of the seal is not that it cannot be broken. I'm not sure why...

Can you define Godhead? The old English word meant Godhood, like fatherhood or motherhood. Is that what you mean or do you mean something different. We wouldn't have had all of that conversation if people would have given a definition of "God". I asked repeatedly for a definition and no one...