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No, I'm not advocating that at all. As a matter of fact I used Genesis to help prove my point. 'Hear O Israel the Lord your God is one', is that what you are referring to? Well, we see that Eloheem is plural and we see that Moses tells the Israelites that the Lord is one Lord. If there was only...

Are you reading my posts? I have affirmed repeatedly that Jesus is God. I don't have to do spiritual gymnastics, I have simply explained the passages that I posted, you have not. I've posted several quotes from those who there, what they said shows that what you are espousing was considered...

Yes, they are the same God (Deity, not being), there is only one God. And you have agreed that they are three beings correct? That is what I have been saying. There is the Father, the Son and the holy Spirit. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, yet all three are deity. I...

Where is the Christian definition fo divinity? Thayer’s Greek Definitions G2316 θεός theos Thayer Definition: 1) a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities 2) the Godhead, trinity 2a) God the Father, the first person in the trinity 2b) Christ, the second person of the trinity...

Yes, three forms, but it is still water. Look up the Greek word Theos, it is a title, it can be applied to humans. God is not a thing, it is a title given to the Father, Son and holy Spirit. It seems that you actually have 4 entities. God being the fourth. What basis do you have for your...

So, then you see that there are three, the Father, the Son and the holy Spirit. They are one in unity as I have already stated. However, I've also shown that they are three beings. Regarding Worshiping, I did not say that we shouldn't worship Jesus, what I said was that I didn't see it in the...

Jesus isn't all knowing. He said Himself that only the Father knew the day and the hour of His return. Jesus can't be all powerful unless everything is under His power, yet it isn't. The Father is not subject to the Son, therefore Jesus does not have power over the Father. 1 Corinthians...

You're making my argument for me. You say the Trinity cannot be understood and and that it isn't logical. What are you basing your statements on? Your opinion. Please show why the Trinity cannot be understood. The reason you find it illogical is because "Oneness" is contradictory, Therefore it...

Again, you are proposing "Oneness" . You are making statements without any supporting evidence. Where does Scripture say that human logic cannot understand the Trinity? You say that the Father, Son and holy Spirit are one and the same yet different. That is a contradiction, doesn't that Bible...

Ducky, I don't mind having the conversations, but please, answer the questions. To keep posting opinions and passages of Scripture with no commentary to make your point is not getting anywhere. You said not so, Do you know what I am talking about? do know what passage of Scripture I was...

Look guys, this isn't the way to get to the truth of Scripture. This is the American way, pick a belief system and find passages to support it. That does not lead to truth. What I have presented is the historic church view. This view is even prior to the Nicene council. Rather than trying to...

Yes a Christian does believe there is one God. However, "Oness" was considered heresy in the early church. They believed that there was one God. God is a title,the word means deity or divine. most references in the NT are to the father however, there are a few that speak of Jesus. I have...

Can you show where Scripture teaches that? What I see in Scripture is that baptism is for the remission of sins. I don't see anything about an outard showing.

That's different, the KJV uses the word "earnest" which is a down payment. If you put a down payment on something you are holding it with the intent to purchase it, however, that does not mean that the purchase is guaranteed. For instance, If one was to put a down payment on a house and later...

I beleive Jesus is still in his earthly form, His resurrected body. I can't remember the passage off the top of my head that indicates it.

Yes, Jesus is a mighty God. That does not make Him the Father. It is amazing how Christians will take a verse or two and post them to support what they say and ignore a multitude of other passages. I have posted quote a few passages showing that Jesus and the Father are not the same being. What...

Yes the word is God, but again, what is the context? You see , the Greek word translated God mean deity, so yes, Jesus is deity, He is not, however, the Father. Most of the references in the NT to God are a reference to the Father. there are a few exceptions and John one is one of them. The...

It’s not lost on me; it’s simply not what the Scripture teach. It doesn’t really matter what the English words mean because Paul did not write in English. I showed you the definition of the Greek word translated avenge that Paul used. One of the definitions was to ‘Defend oneself or another’...

My friend, You'redoing the same, man justifications don't trump Scripture.

OK, now I understand what you meant, yes, I agree.