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  1. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    You're right. The real funny part is that there mare any people called Lord in the OT. Do we now have more than 3 Gods?
  2. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    One thing to be aware of is that English translations often insert "the" where it is not in the Greek texts. It doesn't make things easy for the student of God's word, but a good English-Greek Interlinear Bible can be very useful. But the presence or absence of "the" is still not the defining...
  3. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    Excellent! It was God's spirit that moved upon the waters to bring our universe into existence. The word spirit (Hebrew ruwach, Greek pneuma) is used of wind and breath. Neither is visible to our senses, but they sure affect things, such as we can be alive. All Christians are given holy...
  4. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Such an easy concept. It baffles me when someone would ignore that while accepting that a son and his father are one and the same person. I guess 2,000 years of the same damnable lie is hard to shake. We all know what happens when a lie is repeated often enough; it becomes the truth. Even the...
  5. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    I don't have to outside the scriptures to see holy spirit. I talks about holy spirit quite a bit, but there is no such thing as "God the Holy Spirit" in the scriptures. If we can go outside the scriptures, why not include the Koran, the Urantia, the Baghavad Gita, the Tibetan Book of the Dead to...
  6. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    I do remember all of that. Matt 1:18, Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Birth = Greek "gennesis" which means he had a birth. Like all men, before his birth, he...
  7. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    Where in the scriptures does the spirit change the meaning of the words "son" and "father?" Normally a son and a father are decidedly different persons. We must stick with the scriptures and nothing but the scriptures. All explanations of the trinity of necessity must go outside of the...
  8. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    John 3:17, For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. Sent is Greek apostello, from whence we get the word apostle. Peter, Paul, and others were apostles, i.e.they were sent from God. Being sent obviously does not make the one...
  9. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    I'm not JW. I think they believed Jesus existed from eternity. I believe that he had a beginning, just like all of us. There are several verses that say he had a beginning. Absolutely, Jesus was God's Christ, i.e. God's anointed one. If being anointed makes one God, then all the high priest...
  10. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    I'm a stickler for grammar? Why? Because I say a son can't be his own father? Or is it any of the other clear verses that would not make Jesus to be God, such as: God knew things Jesus didn't know (Mark 13:32) Jesus has a God, the same God as we have to be precise (John 26:17 and about 6...
  11. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Well, if Matthew Peter said, "thou art Christ, the living God" I would change my theology. But, as the verse clearly says, Jesus claimed nothing other than being God's son. Matt 16:16, And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. Again, I'd be quick to...
  12. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    The first thing I'd like to say is that the new birth is affected by incorruptible seed. 1Pet 1:23, Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. My earthly father gave me corruptible seed and yet I can't stop being his...
  13. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Chapter and verse, please? I mean from the scriptures, not the Catechism. For the record, I think you are a wonderful son of God. I'm sure He is well please with you. God bless you richly my brother.
  14. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Well, I don't really see any of those verses saying that he is God, but if they do say he is God we have many problems. Jesus has the same God and Father as we do. John 20:17, Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them...
  15. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    All good points. Another relevant aspect is agency. In the Ancient Near East an agent was considered virtualy identical to the one who sent him. Pharaoh gave Joseph complete authority over Egypt. Joseph's words were as good as Pharaoh's. The only thing Joseph did not have was Pharaoh's throne...
  16. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    I understand that to be Orthodox (accepted) church doctrine, but any opinion as to the OP? Did Paul or Athenasius tell us the right way to get born again? To save you the trouble of going to the OP, Paul said in Romans 10:9-10 that if we make Jesus our Lord and believe God raised him from the...
  17. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Precisely! It is the truth determined by God and communicated to us by way of the scriptures. I'm not too keen on accepting something written several hundred years after Paul, especially when it appears to contradict what Paul said.
  18. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    Maybe I wasn't clear. Absolutely, it is necessary to get born again to receive the gift of holy spirit (Acts 2). That is the divine nature we have. It is Christ in us (Col 1:27). Anyway, the OP was just asking if Paul or Athenasius had to correct formula (for want of a better word) to get born...
  19. Rich R

    Was Jesus a mere man?

    It means the "accepted" doctrine by churches. About 98% of Christians believe Jesus is God, which makes it the Orthodox, or accepted, doctrine. However, truth is determined by the scriptures, not by committee.
  20. Rich R

    Paul or Athenasius - Who Speaks the Truth?

    Jesus is the mediator between us and God. 1Tim 2:5, For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;