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  1. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    That's a false assessment. For me to delete the emoticon and replace with exegetical material took time. I did NOT wait for your reply, see your reply and change my post. This is how it happened for me. I uploaded the emoticon, realised it was not appropriate, and worked on Greek exegesis of 1...
  2. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    FHill, I enjoyed your ribbing but had decided before your post came through that I should change the emoticon to content. I was in the midst of doing that rewrite when you wrote. Oz
  3. OzSpen

    Scotland's religious demise

    Stan, I don't think the issue is State Churches but the doctrines of any church. The CoE, as with the United Church of Canada, Uniting Church in Australia when they drift from and defy biblical integrity in relation to the authority of Scripture and the Gospel will inevitably cause that...
  4. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    That's correct and that's why I deleted it and replaced it with Greek exegesis of 1 John 1:9. Please find above where the emocon fallacy is in my text. It is not there now. I have deleted it and you are here replying to something that is not in my existing post. Now deal with the exegesis of 1...
  5. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    That is not what the Greek text states in 1 John 1:9 (ESV), 'If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness'. The Greek text is: ἐὰν ὁμολογῶμεν τὰς ἁμαρτίας ἡμῶν, πιστός ἐστιν καὶ δίκαιος ἵνα ἀφῇ ἡμῖν τὰς ἁμαρτίας καὶ καθαρίσῃ...
  6. OzSpen

    Scotland's religious demise

    Religion News Service has reported this week on a survey recently released on the state of religion in the land of Reformer, John Knox - Scotland. See: 'The majority of people in Scotland have no religion'. Before the release of this survey and without my knowledge of its content, a couple...
  7. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    That's not what 1 John 1:8-10 teaches. As long as I continue to sin (and that will be until my dying day), I will need, as a Christian, to continue to ask God for his forgiveness. When I sought God's forgiveness at salvation, I was justified by faith. I was declared righteous, which is a...
  8. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    I agree with your conclusion (I presume you mean 1 John 1:8-10).
  9. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Therefore, are we on the same page in affirming that after we become Christians, we may still commit sins. When that happens, we are to confess our sins to God (1 John 1:8-10). Is that your understanding? After becoming Christian, if we sin against another person, we are also to seek...
  10. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    1John 1:8-10 is addressed to Christian believers, those of whom it is said "our fellowship is with the Father and his Son Jesus Christ" (1 John 1:3) and "if we say we have fellowship with him" (1 Jn 1:8). For these Christians who sin after becoming Christians, we are instructed: It is a...
  11. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    FHill, Do you see what you have done in providing another red herring logical fallacy? In #91 I presented a number of points to which you should have responded, but you ignored those points to provide your own agenda in this 2-line response. Your response did not deal with my content, thus you...
  12. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    What you have stated here is contradicted by 1 John 1:8-10 (ESV): Who is John addressing? Those who have fellowship with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ (1 John 1:3 ESV). You are coming down on the wrong side of what the Bible teaches. Oz
  13. OzSpen

    Duplicating back quotes

    Angelina, See the example at #74 at: http://www.christianityboard.com/topic/22418-common-ground/page-4#entry275885 It looks as though it could be happening with this reply to you as well. Oz
  14. OzSpen

    Common ground

    Wormwood, To accept Clement, supposed author of First Clement (ca 80-140 AD) as the author, would place the dating of Hebrews in the late first century (Clement was martyred in ca. 100 AD). No author's name is officially attached to First Clement. F F Bruce in his commentary on the Book of...
  15. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    FHill, You don't have any suggestions for me, you say, but you gave me a suggestion. So I wouldn't listen? This is a straw man. I'm always listening and changing, but I note when anyone uses a logical fallacy, we cannot continue to have a logical discussion because of the fallacious reasoning...
  16. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Richard, What you have stated contradicts Colossians 3:13 (ESV), 'bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive'. There is a requirement of NT believers that they continue to seek forgiveness...
  17. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    No, you did not answer the specific issues I raised in your red herring responses. As for my specifics, can't you see what you did at #62? You quoted my specifics. Here they are again: That God gives people the opportunity to choose for or against him is implied by all of the verses in...
  18. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    How does that position align with 1 John 2:2 (ESV), 'He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world'? Does your position mean that this verse does not apply to the whole world, but only to the ones God draws and not to the ones God does not...
  19. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    Don't you know what a red herring fallacy is and how you have been committing it against me in this thread? See HERE for an explanation of how a red herring is committed. I've provided explanations of how you do it with me. There is no need for me to explain it further. There is a need for you...
  20. OzSpen

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    I don't think you have fully comprehended what I stated in providing this biblical evidence: When God urges/exhorts people to turn to God, to repent, and to believe, God knows it is possible for these people to do so. God would not be calling people to these actions if it was not possible for...