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Actually Paul did teach that the law was "done away". In fact, he used that very same wording, and when he did, he made very direct reference to the 10 commandments. To say that Paul kept the law isn't really true. He believed in morals so it seems that way. But he at that point wasn't trying...

Sorry justaname. You are right. But when someone asks me a question and then dismisses my answer with a bunch of ivory tower mumbo jumbo it irks me. Folks, do us both a favor... Don't ask me a question if you won't like the way i answer.

I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I only said to read the posts and you will see the opinions. Is it not true?

Well here's the thing: Based on what I've read on this forum there is a strong correlation. H. Richard made a blanket statement. But it fits. One only needs to read the posts to understand and see that folks who don't subscribe to OSAS are also pushing works being needed for salvation.

Nothing on its own. Peter. Affirms his apostleship and addresses it it strangers in other regions. They were strangers who needed help. So what? If anyrhing, the fact that peter reached out to rhem affirms that they were predestined to hear.

See, the thing is i can hang it out in red. I have told you once recently i can, and have done so in the past. You obviously didn't read it recently, nor in the past. So i am not cobfident you will read it if i posted it again. I have read your post were you talked about Jesus commenting on...

Nm.... Duplicate post.

Based on this post, i think we are not too different. But based on other posts I've read from you(unless my memory is failing me) we have some differences. I seem to recall you don't believe God predestines individuals. Only that gentiles were predestined to be accepted. Do i understand you...

...and once again, you have to know what his commandments are.

I can't speak for all those who believe in OSAS, but I can stay this is not true. By the way, my position is more of one that believes in predestination than that of OSAS. i do acknowledge repentance for sins. But i also realize that afterwards my flesh is still going to sin whether i try to...

Now,now.... Thats not in the gospels,is it?

Well the interesting thing is that I find it is actually those who keep up the "obey... keep his commandments!" crowd who actually have no idea what the Lord commanded. They seem to think it was the 10 Commandments or the rest of the Law of Moses. But it's not. I've brought it out several...

Yes Barrd, i can recite the beatitudes from memory and even more than that. I know who Barrabas was, but the name of herods wife escapes me at this moment. Don't you think its a little presumptuous to think those who believe in grace through faith don't know Jesus?

Pretty funny, Barrd... First you give a pretty short sided commemtary about Eph 2, then you tell us to leave Paul out of it. By the way, welcome back.

I don't know, H. Richard... You'd think they would be grateful. My whole take on works is that they are fine as long as you don't try to make them a token or proof that you are righteous.

Zachary, if you feel it necessary to serve God by works, go ahead. Cowboy up, because you will have to keep all the law. Even the least of the commandents. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise, and i wish you the best. I on the otherhand have a new covenant. And i will respect...

Well, Solomon WAS the wisest man at one point, but Jesus said a greater than Solomon is here (mat 12:42). I believe in keeping his commandments. But you have to know what they are. Some think its The 10 commandments and the rest of the law of Moses, but its not.

And there are many other verses that talk about this. The thing is thay God knows and has declared it. Doesn't mean we ourselves know. We only know its been declared. Now if you are saying, "well... I KNOW MYYYY standing!" great! Well, that's the right attitude to have! But you don't...

Again, i agree. Psalms 139 confirms it.

That is 100% correct! And it reaffirms that predestination is truth. The problem is, because no one knows with the same certainty that the Lord has, makes ita doctrine we can do very little with. It is true, nonetheless.