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You keep repeating the same old, same old verses without answering what I write. You've committed another red herring fallacy. We cannot have a logical discussion when you do this. When you use logical fallacies, you engage in fallacious reasoning, thus making reasonable conversation...

I'm going to let you in on another secret: So, faith without works is not faith at all. As we say Down Under. It's not fair dinkum faith. God has created us so that we will have faith that involves good works. Good works demonstrate that faith; good works do not cause that faith to come.

The Barrd, You have made some superb observations here. If God has predestined believers through unconditional election, what's the point of evangelism? I guess the response will be: 'That's the way God has done it in his plan of salvation. He has chosen these people absolutely and there is no...

justaname, I refer you to my response at #1102 where I quoted Kittel's Theological Dictionary of the NT and its examination of the verbal and noun uses of apostasy in the NT that do not refer to those who had a lack of saving faith. In fact, the word 'apostasy' means: 'The abandonment of a...

The Barrd, Yes, Judas is a classic example of someone who lost his election (salvation?), yet his apostasy was prophesied to be a part of the process of what took place that took Jesus to Golgotha to be a blood sacrifice for us and provide salvation for those who believe in Him.

Josho, I expect that as a preacher and Bible teacher I'll have my liberty in Australia curtailed when homosexual marriage becomes legal. These 'marriage equality' people seem to be the ones promoting tolerance towards the LGBT community. You watch it when homosexual marriage becomes legal. Who...

Your response commits a red herring logical fallacy. When you engage in fallacious reasoning like this, we cannot have a logical conversation.

That's not the assessment of the meaning of aphistēmi in Kittel's Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (TDNT) where it explains the meaning of aphistēmi: Kittel explains the meaning of the noun, apostasia: 'The word presupposed the concept ... "to be an apostate," and thus signifies the...

justaname, We are talking about 1 Tim 4:1 and what will happen between the first and second advents. Do you understand what the visible church looked like at the time of Paul in the first century? It was nothing like our denominations. It was a house church and ministry participation was like...

That is very perceptive, Barrd, to raise this critical verse. Gordon Fee, in his commentary on 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus, wrote of 1 Tim 4:1: Down through the years I have read several other commentators who join Fee in understanding that 'the later times' during which 'some will abandon the...

I think this is erecting a straw man fallacy, i.e. stating a position that does not relate to the content of the original post. I've provided you with examples from Heb 6:4-6; 1 Tim 1:19 and 2 Pet 2:20-21 of how salvation can be lost. You don't accept that understanding, but many do support the...

If you read Rom 14:10 (Interlinear) and 2 Cor 5:10 (Interlinear), you will find that the Greek bema is used to refer to the judgment seat. It is also used in the Gospels and Book of Acts to refer to the platform where a Roman magistrate or ruler sat to pass sentence (see Matt 27:19; John 19:13)...

I'm also in agreement, but it was not Augustine who was among the first to affirm this doctrine. It was from Jesus himself who stated, 'But the one who endures to the end will be saved' (Matt 24:13 ESV).

justaname, When I speak about a different approach to hermeneutics, I'm referring to what we do when 2 or more Scriptures are in apparent conflict. For example, when we have the warnings about falling away from the faith and shipwrecking the faith (Heb 6:4-6; 1 Tim 1:19) and being 'sealed with...

You may not see it that way, but I've provided you with passages that demonstrate falling away from salvation and shipwrecking the faith. These are not inferences. They are direct Scriptures and I've dealt with them previously with you. They are: Hebrews 6:4-6, and 1 Timothy 1:19. There is...

Heb 6:4-6 says not a word about their having no root. That's an imposition on the text that seems to fit with your OSAS view of soteriology. Those who are justified are those who continue to believe. Sanctification is progressive after salvation but justification does not guarantee that one...

The Barrd, But the Bible does include words like propitiation (1 John 2:2), justification (Rom 5:1), etc. However, if we need to understand the local newspaper or the Bible, we need to engage in proper exegesis and not eisegesis. If we don't follow principles of legitimate hermeneutics, the...

DP, When you make a post on a forum, although it might be addressed to a particular person, that does not limit the number of people who respond. I received notification of your response in my email box, so I considered it was worthy of a response. When I state that you made a claim without...

I'm not sure what you want me 'to expand' on. Would you please clarify? I don't think I'm on target with your last paragraph. I'm not of the view that God zaps people with unconditional election and they are IN the kingdom, NEVER to be excluded. That's not what happened with the Philippian...

Here is one article that I discovered in Christianity Today that discussed this issue on the impact of same-sex marriage legalisation in the USA, '"Outrage and Panic" Are Off-Limits, Say Evangelical Leaders on Same-Sex Marriage' (June 26, 2015). There are a couple negative consequences mentioned...