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How many of the uses of 'believe' are present tense, indicating continuous believing to experience salvation?

justaname, You say, 'I do not see the possibility of the born again believer losing salvation.... But losing salvation seems illogical and impossible'. For me, I consider the biblical evidence (as I've suggested above) points to the born again person who continues to believe as one who cannot...

You're plucking verses, but without exegesis.

You have made some unfortunate presumptions in this post: You claim there are 'some who don't believe in the sovereignty of God'. That may be so, but you gave not one example - not one. Your statement: 'Many freewill types are anarchists in nature and don’t see how God can make them do...

That is not exactly what 1 John 5:13-14 (NIV) teaches. It reads: The Greek present tense generally means continuing or continuous action. In the indicative mood (as with 'you have'), the durative action monopolises the present tense, but since there is no punctiliar [aorist kind of] action in...

This is NOT true. I read every word of the Statement of Faith to better understand the theological standard of this website. Any good Christian website should have a Statement of Faith to discern if posts are inside or outside those parameters. However, I agree with you that long lists of...

Nice cover-up! :rolleyes:

That's hardly a satisfactory explanation because these Jews have: 'once been enlightened'; 'tasted the heavenly gift'; 'shared in the Holy Spirit'; 'tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come' (Heb 6:4-6 ESV). Then they 'fall away' from that salvation of sharing in...

justaname, We'll wait to hear ATP's view. In the Works of James Arminius, vol 1, he wrote: Here Arminius affirms the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints. This is what John 3:16 also confirms: 'For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes [present tense...

Don't you believe James 1:26-27 (ESV)?

In which part of Siberia, the Tundra, Sahara Desert or Antarctica are you living?

In over 50 years as a Christian, I don't recall that ever happening to me. 'You sound like a Baptist'; 'Pentecostals believe that'; 'I'm a Roman Catholic and we don't believe that' are the more common kinds of responses I receive.

So are the warning passages useless in giving us warnings? I'm thinking of: 1 Timothy 1:19 (ESV): 'holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting this, some have made shipwreck of their faith'. Hebrews 6:4-6 (ESV): 'For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened...

Are you thinking of Matt 7:21-23 (ESV)?

You would need to be God and Christ to make that kind of statement.

Josho, You and I as Aussies know that Turnbull, the new Prime Minister, is in favour of homosexual marriage, but that's not the policy of the current Coalition government. After the next election in 2016 (when it is supposed to happen), a plebicite or referendum on homosexual marriage is...

Guestman, 'For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?' (Mark 8:36 ESV) Oz

What illogic! ''And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell [Gehenna]' (Matt 10:28 ESV). You want it to mean that people can kill the body but not kill life. This is irrational argumentation. Bye, bye!

That's a begging the question fallacy. Bye, Bye.

'Or maybe....' is not exegesis. You state: 'We know that Paul didn't believe in disembodied conscious existence....' I've already refuted that view in post #457 amd 2 Cor 5:6-7 (ESV). If I am to understand Paul's thought, I understand him through what he has written and his background as a...