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  1. OzSpen

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    The only thing stated in The Nicene Creed about life after death is: 'I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come'. It does not state the nature of human beings and what happens at death. There is not a word in the Nicene Creed about the breath of life leaving a...
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    Well this is good news for the SBC

    So do you think Southern Baptists will now lose missionary support now that they accept those who speak in tongues? Oz
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    Well this is good news for the SBC

    That's an excellent overview of what I thought might be happening. My wife is captivated by Dr Mohler's preaching. She watches lots of his sermons from YouTube and she recommends some here and there for me to listen to and I take up her invitation. He has an exceptional gift of preaching but is...
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    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    The translation DOES matter because you are NOT speaking the truth about what Job stated with the translation that you accept. You are speaking error about what Job said because you don't care about the translation.
  5. OzSpen

    Regarding Baptism

    Please read what I wrote at #13. There I explain why 16 years of age can be too young to be baptised by immersion. We are not talking about age and eternal life, but age to be baptised.
  6. OzSpen

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Butch, From these points you raise, you seem to be: Anti-Trinitarian. Would you say you are a Unitarian? Some of your doctrines here are very much like the JWs who knock on my door. Are you JW, Christadelphian, or from another group that denies the bi/tripartite nature of human beings? What...
  7. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    If a human being said something that was untrue and that untrue statement is recorded in Scripture as being an accurate statement of what was said, that is included in my understanding of inerrancy because it states that all that is affirmed in Scripture is without error. A court document that...
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    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    It is relevant because you support the wrong translation of Job 9:23. I most certainly understand what inerrancy means. It means that everything that the Bible affirms is without error in the original MSS. St Augustine got it right but you don't seem to be able to match his excellence in...
  9. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    You have not refuted what I wrote. Yours is nothing more than your assertion when I provided etymology for exegesis. The opinion of man is recorded in God's inerrant Word (theopneustos, 1 Tim 3:16).
  10. OzSpen

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    ewq, One of your major problems with Job 9:23 is that you have not done adequate research to understand its meaning. To understand its meaning, we need to know that according to Job 9:1, this is Job answering. Job 9:23 reads in several different translations: New International Version When a...
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    Well this is good news for the SBC

    Hammer, You say your SBC church is Charismatic friendly, but are the supernatural gifts of the Spirit functioning in your church? Are people being prayed for who have illnesses? Is God choosing to heal any of them? I cannot believe your largest Southern Baptist Seminary and Dr Albert Mohler Jr...
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    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    That is exceedingly well said, Wormwood. You have summarised the inerrant view well. I would add that because we don't have the original documents (but we have some very close to them), there could be the possibility that there is the occasional statement about which there is questionable...
  13. OzSpen

    Walking away from forums

    Again, such amazing humility. My God bless and encourage you in this kind of maturity. May it help more of us on this forum to pursue it with you - in the midst of failures. I agree that some find it easier than others not to get rattled. For me, one of the big challenges of 1 Pet 3:15-16 (ESV)...
  14. OzSpen

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    You are not telling me here the specifics with which you disagree. Please give us the false teachings and their biblical correction. To this point in this post, you've only given nebulous statements that you oppose.
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    Walking away from forums

    I am certainly here to discuss, but not when I see false doctrine being promoted. Here's my reasoning: In any forum, we are dealing with several issues that Paul addressed in his letter of 2 Timothy: 1. 'Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to...
  16. OzSpen

    Walking away from forums

    Hammer, That's an exceedingly mature observation and I commend you for such penetrating observations. I find the forum to be a place where considered views can be expressed that are not possible with instant conversation. Research is possible for the forum but not in person-to-person. Many are...
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    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Butch, Being taught opposing doctrines from the same passage should teach us to be Bereans and not be skeptics. I don't find it helpful for you to use language such as, 'there is much in modern Christianity that is simply not Christian. Some of the most universally accepted doctrines in the...
  18. OzSpen

    Walking away from forums

    Very insightful,. Josho. Seems as though many have a better knowledge of God's ways than God himself. When the Bible's content rattles the life and views, what gives way? The Bible and not the person. Submitting to the teaching of Scripture is a challenge that many don't want to obey. What was...
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    Walking away from forums

    Gerhard, I praise God for your conclusion. Discussion, debate and even dissension over Scripture has not removed my resolve to serve the Lord and be edified daily by the Scriptures. Oz
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    Walking away from forums

    I think you have a point. I don't think it's a matter arrogance but of seeing little being achieved. Perhaps we should look at Christian forums this way: 'As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.' (Prov 27:17 NIV). But it too often turns into a battlefield of one wanting to defeat...