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I'm not going to go out of my way to use or wrangle about terms not used by the Apostles--eg, "early rain". The texts are difficult enough to understand on their own without introducing new terminologies.

As I said before, the actual objection Paul seems to have to the idea of "justification by works" is when it consists in "a righteousness of my own from [the knowledge of good and evil]", but that form of "righteousness" would, by definition, not encompass "God's righteousness" revealed "from...

Well, I need a coherent message before proceeding, so I have had to study and pray about the things the Bible teaches. The idea that "I have to have faith" doesn't work unless you know the message you're supposed to be believing--and that is what this thread is about, making sense of the...

Here is the other post about reconciling the two

In the replies I've sought to reconcile the two etc

At least you don't try to wave the reality away, like so many do. LOL

Right, the thread is called "balancing" the two ideas, or "reconciling" them--I've explained how I would reconcile them in the replies.

What does "justified by faith and or works" mean? Does this mean "you have to choose whether you believe you're justified by faith or by works"?

I'm not saying we serve by the Law--in fact, in the replies, I explicitly condemn that--so that's not the issue. "Salvation by works" (as you are using it) is really a misnomer, as I've argued. Works will save you on the Day of Judgment, so the question is how both can be true, and I've covered...

1. As the OP shows, there is a judgment coming at which only doers of the Law will be justified, thus we must ask God how it is that we are both judged justified in the present by faith alone (not by our own works, so that it can be a gift, not a payment), and, yet, how we are judged justified...

I've heard this epistle was in part a response to Gnosticism, which taught that physical matter was evil, and spirit was pure--and that, as a result, 1) Christ was a spirit, couldn't have incarnated, bc He'd have been sinful if He'd incarnated, 2) they expect Christians to continue on in gross...

Notice: In Galatians, the solution to their error of trying to become perfect by being "under Law" is never "Christ alone--you're not saved by works", the solution to their error is "faith which works by love" and "serve one another by love". This is a working description of... Galatians 3...

Also, even with the rule of Romans 14:5 ("each man must be fully persuaded in his own mind") holding true, there is apparently yet a danger of being persuaded incorrectly: Being incorrectly persuaded, persuaded of a lie, with respect to service to God after being saved by grace through faith and...

In Hebrews, it speaks of resting from our own works... Hebrews 4 10For whoever enters God’s rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from His. 11Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following the same pattern of disobedience. ...but...

How do you balance the Biblical doctrine of past-tense justification by faith without good works with the Biblical doctrine of future-tense justification by good works of faith? It is true that Romans 4 speaks of justification by faith, apart from good works--and that it is of faith so that it...

I think Ghada may be being distracted by this rabbit, and is wasting their time chasing it, when they could be doing something more personally constructive. I do "get" the complaint, though: lots of people claim their inner person doesn't sin when they sin, it's their outward person, but their...

I actually agree with Ghada's central point ("don't be deceived and don't claim to be part of Christ if you're living in sin"), but I do think the way they're going about it is kind of sad and self defeating. The tone just seems wrong. Fault finding. I remember when we disagreed you were...

"Pseudo scholarship"--so perfect! Lol Too many examples... don't need to go off on a tangent... lol "pseudo scholarship" these people are embarrassing with their rank ignorance they swear is "top notch" Christian scholarship, yet unknown to the early Church. Yes, they discovered real...

The guy actually publicly brags he is an "expert" (first sign of fraud), then, when challenged, is either incapable of answering (of course this is obviously the case) or refuses to answer. He and all others like him are hopeless liars. They can't defend their lies, so they end up calling you...

That was a link to the place in the thread where he ran away from Romans 11.