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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    He thinks his own words are scripture. That's his problem. He never has exegeted even one verse of scripture. He thinks he doesn't need to do that because he thinks his own words are equivalent to scripture. It's unbelievable.
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Can you show me this? I don't see any reference to the day of the Lord in Isaiah 7:18-25. What about what is written in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12 where the day of the Lord is portrayed as an event that will come suddenly and unexpectedly in relation to Jesus coming as a thief in...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, what I'm asking is how you can reconcile your understanding of Zechariah 14 with what is written in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12. Those passages indicate that sudden, unexpected global destruction will occur when Jesus returns to the extent that unbelievers "shall not escape"...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Are you saying you think he shouldn't have done that? This topic had nothing to do with that particular thread, so it made sense to create a separate thread about this topic instead of continuing to derail that thread. Can you quote anything from the first post to back up your claim here? Are...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Where is that taught in scripture? Is that what is indicated in passages like 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12?
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Can you explain how that can be reconciled with what is written in passages like 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-12? How can any mortal survive His return, in light of what passages like those indicate?
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Are you not able to just reason together about these things instead of trying to make things contentious and bringing preterism into the discussion? I'm not a preterist. Can you please just calm down and have a civil, adult discussion? You think I don't want that, but I do. It looks like you...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    It doesn't have to refer to two individuals. We're talking about the most highly symbolic book in the Bible here. I believe the two witnesses symbolically represent the church (two olive trees = branches from the natural olive tree and wild olive tree grafted in together - Romans 11) and their...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Look what you do. Did I use any exclamation points in my post? No. You seem to purposely try to escalate things when you use exclamation points like this. Can't you discuss things calmly? You're not understanding my view, which happens fairly often. If you read the parallel passage of Luke...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    I could have used a lot worse word to describe you telling me: "Unknowling, you are inadvertently blending "religious" conspiracy theories with the truth here.". You think it's acceptable to accuse me of accepting conspiracy theories? That was very offensive, so I think calling that "stupid"...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    So, that's entirely your fault. Go back to post #1207 when WPM started posting here again after no one had posted in this forum for awhile. He simply was explaining how he understands things. He was not being evil at all. After you responded without actually addressing anything he said, he...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You took that completely wrong. It was a sincere question based on what you said, which was only based on what was written in Zechariah 14. So, I didn't know if you studied the topic beyond Zechariah 14 or not. You are apparently new to this forum, so how could I know? That's why I posted the...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Okay! That's not what it says. The "great tirbulation" relates to the destruction and desolation of Jerusalem which came about because of God's wrath against the unrepentant, unbelieving Jews. Of course. And that's why Jesus told believers to flee before the wrath of God came upon unbelievers...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Okay, so can you address my question that I asked in post #820 then?
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    LOL! This is beyond belief! When did I ever say that it was? I did NOT! Come on! You cannot be serious! Stop this nonsense! You are completely embarrassing yourself here. For your own sake, just stop doing that. It so happens that the prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Look at what the text itself indicates. He said He wold bring great tribulation upon them, not that it would occur "from the evil within". He would personally kill them if they did not repent. That's what the text says. If that isn't God/Christ's wrath, I don't know what is. Revelation 2:22...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No one is saying that anyone gave the exact date! Are you kidding me? Where did anyone say that? No one has and no one would. Good grief. Where do you come up with this nonsense? Right, and that's exactly what happened in 70 AD. He specifically mentioned that the temple buildings would be...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    LOL! When are exact dates ever given in prophecy. Stop being so ridiculous! I guess no prophecy has ever been fulfilled then since the exact dates are never given! LOL! Please get serious for once! I can barely believe that you are for real and it seems that you are just playing some kind of...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I agree. He predicted the event with amazing accuracy in Luke 19:41-44 in particular. I can't comprehend how anyone would not recognize that He was prophesying about the destruction of earthly Jerusalem there. It proved that He is God and that He is a prophet and no one should question anything...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    It's that obvious that Jesus is talking in that verse about Himself bringing punishment that He refers to as "great tribulation" upon unrepentant, rebellious people like Jezebel if they don't repent. How can that not be God's wrath? I can't imagine that anyone would deny that besides you. But, I...