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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Just understand that you are every bit at fault for that as anyone else here with your repeated insults. You want to blame everyone else for that, but even when I try to talk to you in a civil manner you escalate things by accusing us of being preterists and such and you make things heated...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    It most certainly is. You should be celebrating the accuracy of the prophecies in Sacred Scripture which prophesied of what happened then, but instead you deny that scripture would prophesy of such a significant event that showed everyone what God will do even to the Jews if they rebel against...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Two Witnesses Came and Went Thousands of Years Ago

    They did not ascend to the third heaven/paradise where Jesus is. So, if they didn't die, where are they? John 3:13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. Jesus obviously said this well after what is described in the verses you...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    He was right. That was easy to post that post-trib passage, wasn't it? What else does he want from us? He keeps asking us to do what we've already done many times.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    So, you admit your question was stupid. That's a start. Now, you need to admit that YOUR interpretations of Revelation 6:9-11 and Revelation 7:1-8 are stupid. You are not understanding that the 144,00 is a symbolic representation of Spiritual Israel. John was told the numbers and the names of...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    LOL! You are a silly person. Why do you act as if the book of Revelation is all literal text? You know it's not. You try to turn God's temple into some fake temple of God and you're telling me I'm waving a magic wand on the text? LOL! You are hilarious. And very foolish.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    Do you think Jesus will be literally riding a flying white horse when He returns with a literal sword coming out of His mouth? Revelation 19:11-21 is symbolic text. You can't say that it describes a different event than 1 Thessalonians 4 just because Paul doesn't reference Jesus riding a white...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Actually Jesus returns twice...

    No, He absolutely does not. No, there is obviously one return where two distinctly different things happen to people with believers being changed to put on bodily immortality and caught up to meet the Lord in the air and unbelievers being destroyed. You fail to understand that 1 Thessalonians...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    LOL! You say that to him after you said to him previously: "This has to be one of the dumbest arguments you've made, and it isn't because dumb arguments from you are seldom!!!". And that was not a belittling, ungodly thing to say? You are so incredibly hypocritical and delusional.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    He says your argument that you made using scripture was supposedly dumb while doing NOTHING to refute it with scripture. I would say THAT is dumb, if anything. Wow.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    No, what's dumb is your argument that Satan was created evil despite scripture saying that everything God created is very good (Genesis 1:31). And, look at what you're doing here. You whine like a little baby that others are not acting like Christians and being rude and so on and that is exactly...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    How much thought and study have you given this? How do you interpret Zechariah 14:16-21 and the following passages... 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    5. Revelation: The New Jerusalem.

    So did I. Matthew 25:31-46 will take place when Jesus returns with His angels. Yes, it is. It includes Matthew 25:41 & 46. People are not going to be cast into everlasting fire on multiple occasions in the future.
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes, you are. You said "the effect of what you Arminians say is to diminish God's glory,". That is absolutely false and I explained why by showing how I see it. So, you are indeed making a strawman argument and I have to wonder why. Could it be because you are unable to make any other kind of...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Fine. Let's agree to disagree at this point. I have no interest in continuing this discussion when all we're going to do is repeat things we've already said. I have nothing to add to what I've already said.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Please don't say stupid things like this to me. I'm not saying otherwise. Read what I say CAREFULLY. I'm being clear, but you have to put in the effort to actually read what I say. No, it is not. It is pointing to all dead believers from all-time up until the fifth seal, which I believe is...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes, everyone believes that the result of the rapture is to be taken away from Christ's wrath. That would be called pre-wrath or pre-final wrath or pre-day of Christ's return wrath. Whatever you want to call it. You can call it pretrib if you define the trib as Christ's wrath on the day He...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Now, there's something we can agree on. Another thing we can agree on. That's two things! Awesome! We are best buddies now. And then you ruin it by calling me a liar. But you allow that it could just be self deception instead. How nice! You say after accusing me of lying. Whatever, buddy.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    What am I supposed to think when you say a reference to "the temple of God" refers to a future physical temple? Give me a break! Learn how to communicate more clearly! Don't blame me for your lack of communication skills. Neither Revelation 11:2 nor 2 Thessalonians 2:4 refer to some future FAKE...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes, I know. And, honestly, I don't care that you disagree. It doesn't say the great city where He received His death sentence, it says where He was actually crucified and scripture says that was outside of Jerusalem. How can you think that earthly Jerusalem could possibly be called the holy...