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In John 3:18, there are two judgments by God. The first judgment was for eternal death. The second judgment was for eternal life. He that believes in Jesus, "Shall never die". He that does not believe in Jesus, "Shall surely die". Why it is that you want to paint a Grey line between them is...

Your analogy doesn't reach the ultimate conclusion, which is death. Sure a person can be imprisoned for life, being a form of punish-ing, but eventually during the torment of imprisonment, whereby the freedom of one's natural life is strictly contained, they are only waiting for the natural form...

Gen.2[7] And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground [earth], and breathed [oxygenated air] into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. If you think that Adam was given an eternal soul on the basis of believing that the breath of life is an eternal soul, then...

No, only God is an everlasting, all consuming fire. To be literally burned by everlasting fire is to be consumed by God's presence in person. You have a "Religious understanding" of that which you have been told by men, of what THEY think hell is.

Yes, that is my point. For babies who have died, none of us can speak truthfully of how God extends His Grace upon them and grant them eternal life. We can only hope that He does, but if not, that I accept and understand also. But as for any of them being dead in hell, the grave, that is an...

So to you, Hell is an underworld or off world place of eternal existence with torment forever?

Babies are the issue here, not you. Nor are we talking about babies who grow up.

Hell is the grave! So, yes they do.

Of all the little children (babies) that came/come into the world, I only know of two that were born with the Holy Spirit at birth. All others were/are born without the Holy Spirit, and therefore are born as "the natural man", being of mere "flesh and blood".

"in addition to that we never once read we are guilty of what Adam did. Like I won’t go to hell because of the choices Adam made." In all actuality, you will die and go to hell (the grave) because of what Adam did! That is God's first judgment. As far as I know, it's still in effect. However...

So, without Christ, you are going to live forever, never to experience God's judgment of death? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the KoG. 1Cor.15[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. As an example...

All of Ezekiel 18 is talking about the statutes of the Law, and the righteousnes of the Law, through the Law. The Righteousness of God, by way of faith in Jesus, supercedes the righteousness of the Law. Through keeping the statutes of the Law, sin was only forgiven for a period of one year (by...

It would help if you could provide the scripture. Thanks. We're you referencing Luke 18:16?

Sorry, babies, who are generated by the "seed" of the parents, are born without the Holy Spirit of God, which is the vehicle of God's Righteousness and the Gift of Eternal life.

I hear you. However, there is much of what has been preached for 2000 years (after the Apostles) that has swayed many generations into doctrinal word blenders of all types, having arguments on all sides. When Jesus said that He didn't come to send peace on the earth, but rather division, it is...

In Romans 8, the words "creature", "creation" (G2937) are used making reference to the original human creation, both the saved and the unsaved. Those who walk (live) in their flesh without the Spirit of God within them, as well as those who walk (live) in the Spirit with the Spirt of God within...

Of course, what I am revealing here, is not any easy task to accept, mainly because that which is religiously popular in your mind, has taken very deep root, due to hundreds of years of reinforced repetition in the preaching of the popular view. So now I ask, is not being born again of the Holy...

Yes, each and everyone of us are physically born, being spiritually dead to God "already", which is the first death. KJV John 3:18 If a person does not come to God through Faith in Jesus, and then physically dies, they will have died the second death. The fulness of their being will have...

Thank you Marks for the kind words to all here who are participating. I percieve that it truly is a discussion blessed of the Lord.

Thank you Cassandra. May God bless you, as you hear His spiritual thoughts through His use of our human words.