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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Yes, let the spiritually dead, who are physically alive, bury the spiritually dead, who have physically died. Which constitutes the first death and the second death, culminating in such a person's last breath of oxygenated air. They are forever dead, being the recipient in full of "thou shalt...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    I previously quoted two scriptures that no one is making a connection with yet. KJV John 3[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 11[24] Martha saith unto him...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Yes, to be in sin without having or neglecting the forgiveness of God, is to be spiritually dead to God, as if one had never lived their mortal life. Matt.26[24] The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    The symbolic words, the Tree of Life, is representing that of Jesus, the Co-creator with God the Father, of which are of Eternal spirit. As a result, if A&E had eaten of the Tree of Life first, they would have lived forever, having the Eternal Spirit of God within them, and never would have...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Yes, that is the typical understanding for the annihilist view, of which I am accepting of. So, if that be the case, what does Jesus mean by this: Luke.9[60] Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    I sincerely grasp and understand that if A&E did eat/partake of the Tree of Life first, who is Jesus, they would have received the Gift of Eternal life right then and there, without ever having to go through God's judgment/condemnation of eternal death. However, that was NOT the plan of God...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Jude.1[7] Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. So then, from whom did that "eternal fire" come from? Did God create it...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Luke 16[31] And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Did God consume Lot's wife, so that she would not live? And if so, this is the reason: Exod.33[20] And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    The following quote will put it together for us all, of how my item #2 is God's established judgment for us through His Son: John 11[25] Jesus said unto her, I AM the resurrection, and [I AM] the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: [26] And whosoever liveth and...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Sorry, it appears that many are headed off into eternity with the wrong perspective. Some already think that man will live on forever, either in a new global earth, or an off world place of a forever burning Hell. 1Cor.2[5] That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but [rather] in...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    A quote from Father Chapin: B-asic I-nstructions B-efore L-eaving E-arth (Dailing Living with Father Chapin) A typical broadcast: My Daily Living
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    The punish-ment of death is everlasting, forever. The punish-ing of death is temporary, until death is achieved. "Punishment" is in the KJV NT scriptures. "Punishing" is not.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    No need to argue. According to 1 John 5:12, for we who are born again of His Holy Spirit, we have "already" the gift of Eternal life. We are just "patiently" waiting for the Day of His Glorious appearance, to be immortalized into His likeness.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    OK, but on a plain, one can see for a very long distance, without any obstacles to block one's vision. Again, WHAT did Lot's wife see?? She saw God in all His fiery vengeance. And because she did, she was not able to stay alive!! Indeed she was "consumed" as it was foretold.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    A few posts back, I quoted John 3:18[18] (1.) He that believeth on him is not condemned [judged]: (2.) but he that believeth not is condemned [judged] already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. What most Christians are not aware of is that there are...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    In the KJV. Of course I understand the spiritual value of not looking back. As a born again Christian, I am in full agreement of your words.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    You can decline to answer. I understand. Yes, the story of the rich man and Lazaruth is a parable, a fictious story, told in order to deliver a single truth. What was that single truth? Of course Jesus' resurrected body was tangible. But is that all that you know? When the disciples were in the...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Dead is dead, destroyed is destroyed. If there be anything of an existence for the destroyed unsaved, it would be the Carbon atoms of their burning, ascending up into the infinity of space.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    OK, back to Luke 17 [28] Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; [29] But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. [30] Even thus shall it be in the...