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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    You are missing that it's talking about lawlessness being restrained. You understand what the word restrained means, right? Lawlessness being restrained doesn't mean there is no lawlessness at all, it just means that there isn't complete lawlessness without any restraints. Paul indicated that a...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    I simply do not believe for a second that Paul would refer to the temple that Jesus declared to be spiritually desolate as "the temple of God". And, the fact that every other time he used the word "naos", it referred to a spiritual temple (a person's body or the corporate body/church). So, it's...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    I said that you are using the OT to shine light on the NT, so I assume you mean you're not using the OT to shine light on the NT. This sure seems like you are using OT scripture from Daniel to shine light on the NT scriptures. But, whatever. We just don't take the same approach to understanding...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    I appreciate your thoughts, but I simply disagree. I believe the NT shines light on the OT prophecies, but you're trying to use OT prophecies to shine light on NT prophecies instead. I just don't agree with that approach. I don't believe there is anything in Revelation 20 that is not also...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    It's not the revealing of the man of sin that was being restrained. It's lawlessness. Paul said the mystery of lawlessness was already at work, but it was being restrained. So, it was already at work, but not without being restrained to some extent. So, he implied that it would later no longer...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Right. I have no doubt that he would have done that if he was talking about the physical temple. Just as he always did otherwise. Yep. But, he did use the word "naos" instead of "hieron" there, so anyone familiar with how he otherwise used the word would be able to discern what he was talking...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    Look at the post @jeffweeder was responding to. Jeff doesn't believe there were any children prior to Cain. He was responding to someone who believes that (@Trekson) and telling him about the implications of that belief, if it was true (obviously, it is not).
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Beast Revelation

    Do you understand that the mark of the beast is something which indicates that a person does not have their name written in the book of life and is something which indicates that a person will end up in the lake of fire? Revelation 14:9 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    What are "all these things" that you think we will escape exactly? Do you understand that we will escape the things that Paul said unbelievers in spiritual darkness "shall not escape"? 1 Thessalonians 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    No, I think the 6th seal is right before the 7th trumpet and then the 7th seal is at the same time as the 7th trumpet. No, we don't see the great multitude in heaven at the marriage supper during the supposed one year wrath of God. That's all in your imagination. The bride/wife is not even...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    But he did say in 2 Thessalonians 2:5 "Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?", so it's quite possible that he didn't feel any need to give a qualifying explanation of the temple of God in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 since he had likely already done that when he was...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Right. I pointed this out in my post. But, as I said, the physical temple was no longer the temple of God at that point, so it's safe to say that he was not referring to the physical temple. Hmmm. Why would he call the physical temple "the temple of God" at that point when, in his other...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You never understand the context of scripture. Luke 21:32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. 34 “But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Okay, so maybe that's one verse where it's not made clear in the text itself that it's not talking about the physical temple, but we can use other scripture to make that determination, as I'll explain (see below). I don't think there are any of those indicators in that verse itself or in the...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Right. Every passage where it speaks of the temple of God as the body of Jesus, a believer's body or the corporate body of Christ (the church), that is made clear in the text. There is nothing anywhere in the Olivet Discourse which indicates that Jesus ever refers to the spiritual temple of God...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    In the heavens equates to inside our bodies to you? Can't get any more confused than that. From heaven. Not from inside of us. Good grief. Now, you're calling a soul a body. You just make things up. How do you live with yourself when you equate things you make up in your imagination with truth...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    I guess these verses are not in your Bible then. Matthew 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The Relationship Between Israel and the Church

    You really need to ask God for wisdom because you believe a lot of nonsense (James 1:5-7). Your views are based on your wild imagination and not on scripture.
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    TODAY IS NOT GOD'S GATHERING OF ISRAEL

    Where does this say that we have a spiritual body inside of our natural body? Nowhere. Paul goes on to say that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. That shows that you don't need a body to be present with the Lord. LOL. Not at all. What did I say to lead you to ask this...