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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Do you somehow not understand that the heavenly Jerusalem is written about in a different context than that as well in scripture? If the text is figurative, then it doesn't have to be talking about when the New Jerusalem comes down from heaven. It could be talking in the same kind of context as...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    So, you're basically saying that we should just assume that the feast of tabernacles will be observed in some unknowable way in the new heavens and new earth. And you think this is supposed to be a convincing explanation for what Zechariah 14:16-21 is about?
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Because people can be wrong. To be mistaken doesn't make someone a liar. Why would the Holy Spirit not want to teach doctrine? Did Jesus only speak to the disciples about things necessary for salvation or did He also teach them spiritual principles and doctrine? The latter, right? And what did...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    All you're doing here is sharing your wrong opinion about what you think faith is. As if that's going to convince me of anything? Again, you have no idea of what faith is. You've made that abundantly clear. And nothing you're saying here changes that. Faith relates to trust. Having faith in...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    Buddy, I'm not interested in your games. This is a place to talk about end times doctrine, not a place for you to question whether people are in Christ or not. Understand? I said I would clarify my interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 if you wanted. It appears that you instead want me to...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    But, why say that to me? That comes across as if you think I would disagree with what you're saying here, but I don't. I never indicated in any way, shape or form that someone misinterpreting a Bible verse means that the Holy Spirit is not working in their lives. The Holy Spirit would not work...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    To present truth to people who want to know the truth because there's a lot of ignorance going on here. Why are you here? Just look at your posts. Everyone here can see how incoherent they are. No one ever agrees with you. You think your many words equate with scripture. You never make any...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Oh, did you manage to take me off of your ignore list, little boy? I'm surprised you figured out how to do that. How odd that you replied to a post that was not directed to you at all. That tracks with how little sense you make. LOL. Stop saying dumb things and then I won't have anything to...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    LOL! You can't refute anything I've posted, as you've proven repeatedly. Your arguments are almost all unbelievably weak. Can't do so again when you never have done so the first time. It becomes something to get all worked up over because you use 1 Corinthians 12:9 as one of your main verses...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    So, why did you say "I have a hard time believing that anyone who doesn’t interpret 2 Thessalonians 2:4 the only one true way doesn’t have the Holy Spirit working in their lives" to me then? No, of course not. Not all of those views can be true. The Holy Spirit would never contradict Himself.
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Uh huh. Yep. Even the natural man can understand those simple things. I don't think that's what Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 2:9-16. If you look at 1 Corinthian 3 you can see that Paul figuratively differentiates between milk and solid food. I would relate the deep things of God to...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    Sure, someone could argue that, but that means nothing to me if they can't back up that claim with scripture. Why are you going on about spiritual discernment when I didn't say anything about that in the post you had responded to? 1 Corinthians 2:10 But God has revealed them to us through His...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You have an interpretation of Daniel 9:24-27 all to yourself. So, you think God revealed the meaning of that prophecy only to you and no one else in the world? I thought you were an amillennialist? But, here you seem to be talking about the Millennium starting in the future in the middle of the...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    LOL. Yes, according to me. And you have done nothing to refute what I believe. I'm showing you what scripture indicates. Your beliefs don't line up with what is written in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10. Yes. Why do you ask? Because I trust in Him as my personal Lord and Savior. I belong to Him and He...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm asking you how exactly you think the feast of tabernacles will be observed in the new heavens and new earth. What is your answer to that question?
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    In the case of 2 Thessalonians 2:4, we know that it relates to a time before Jesus comes and we are gathered to Him, right? We can know that by reading the preceding verses. Jesus has not yet come and His people have not yet been gathered to Him, so the temple of God that Paul references in the...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    A Simple Way To Recognize The FINAL Beast Kingdom

    Colossians 2:16-17 is not talking about things that are a shadow of things that are still to come in the future. Those are things related to the old covenant which included animal sacrifices that were a shadow of Christ's once for all sacrifice. Those things are not a shadow of things still to...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    What "standing" are you talking about here? Are you talking about my doctrinal standing? What don't you understand about what I've said about what I believe? Just ask and I'll clarify it. I obviously have said I believe in a post-trib rapture in contrast to your belief in a pre-trib rapture...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The fallacy of believing Jesus was talking about the temple of stones on the Mount of Olives

    And these things are revealed by the Holy Spirit, right? Paul indicated in 1 Corinthians 2:10-16 that the things that he spoke, which are also things that he has written, are "not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual."...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The post-trib rapture will occur on the day that Jesus will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe"

    That's very ironic coming from you. You have the most convoluted beliefs of anyone here, except for maybe one or two people. That's what Paul indicates in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:11 and 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10. He very clearly indicates that Christ's vengeance and the rapture (remember, you...